@maddow gives total ideological predictability a whole new bloom
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Replying to @samhaselby @maddow
I would not have thought it possible, but it's true.
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Replying to @davidrieff @samhaselby
Happy to grant the point but I wonder what you both think: what is the appropriate level of concern that we should be expressing, and what is the appropriate language for expressing it?
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Replying to @PatrickIber @samhaselby
I don'r find the Fascism analogy accurate or useful. And I don't even understand the "Civil War" panic unless, that is, you think the White Nationalist militias either can stand up to the US military or have so infiltrated the armed forces they will not uphold the Constitution. 1
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I agree about fascism analogy (because there are ample better analogies within American history that are closer to the bone, like the end of Reconstruction). But Trump by his own words is definitely trying to bring the military into domestic politics. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/trump-military-election.html …
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Despite this (to me) wildly alarmist story, I don't believe the senior leadership of the US military would ever accede to such demands.
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I don't think we're going to have a Civil War in the senes of mobilized armies, and I agree that the senior military leadership doesn't respect Trump, but I think some sort of Dirty War/Bleeding Kansas scenarios are at the very least worth heading off at the pass
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Even that seems overblown to me. What I do see as an inevitability in the wake of a Biden victory is White Nationalist terrorism on a scarily wide scale. But awful as it will be, I don't think that it will pose an existential threat to the US anymore than Islamic terrorism has.
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Well then we share that concern and agree that in itself it isn't an existential threat to the US. If we're looking for one of those, I'd guess that a nullifcation crisis would be the most likely source
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Agree no existential threat but I think a long-run governability threat. As with the war on terror, the cycle of sporadic violence & state repression with be hard to stop.
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Yes, that (in contrast to some other, shall we say more florid anxieties) seems to me all too likely.
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