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    1. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      Are you suggesting that Black Lives Matter has a narrow cultural nationalist politics? Or that Clinton misunderstands their politics?

      1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @LeoECasey

      Yeah, I think the guy who executed Ricky Ray Rector and demonized Sista Souljah has bad racial politics.

      22 replies 4 retweets 128 likes
    3. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      And that makes Kwame Toure’s politics good, and better than Lewis’ politics, simply because Clnton criticized Toure?

      4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @LeoECasey

      It's not Bill Clinton's job to tone police internal black debates -- although he thinks it is. And bringing up Toure (and giving him the slave name Carmichael) when it wasn't necessary was clearly an intervention in current debates.

      9 replies 3 retweets 53 likes
    5. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      All well and good, but it seems to me you are doing your own adjudication, in which case you have an obligation to get it right. Toure’s politics were cultural nationalist, and the suggestion — wherever it originates — that they match BLM should be questioned.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @LeoECasey

      It's not Toure's cultural nationalism that Clinton was objecting to -- it was excessive radicalism, too much boat rocking. Which is a fear that centrists like Clinton have of Sista Souljah in the 1990s and BLM now.

      2 replies 1 retweet 35 likes
    7. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      If that is Clinton's understanding, and not just your imputed view, I would argue that you both are wrong. The more substantively radical position was actually the socialists like Randolph, Rustin and King, and those close to them, like Lewis...

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @LeoECasey

      You honestly think Clinton brought up Toure now out of antiquarian interest in 1960s battles rather than as an intervention in current debates? That's not how politicians use funerals (consider how John McCain's funeral was a subtextually criticism of Trump.

      1 reply 1 retweet 26 likes
    9. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      Eulogies of political figures are obviously political. Obama made a number of pointed, explicit criticisms of Trump and Trumpist GOP. While I do not doubt that Clinton was trying to make a political point with the Toure reference, it is not altogether clear what that point was.

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    10. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @LeoECasey @HeerJeet

      It is not even clear to me how deep Clinton's understanding of the political controversies in question are. You seem so eager to score some points on Clinton that you leap to position that if Clinton is critical of Toure, than Toure's politics were better than Lewis' politics.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Jul 2020
      Replying to @LeoECasey

      I didn't say Toure's politics were better than Lewis's politics. I said Clinton was using Toure as a foil, in the same way he used Sista Souljah.

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