Look, if a "was the Civil War worth it" debate is what it takes for the takeosphere to shut up about Harper's, I'm for it.https://twitter.com/JimBovard/status/1281274522709172225 …
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Replying to @daveweigel
Counter-historicals is always a crapshoot, but the U.S. was the only nation in the Western hemisphere apart from Haiti that needed violence to end slavery, so possibly there was an alternative. However, I view the American Civil War as the 3rd English Civil War, so I figure North
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Replying to @FranklinH3000 @daveweigel
The American Revolution was the real problem. It locked in the power of the planter elite & also ideology of Lockean property rights (providing basis for confederate worldview).
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yep. under London, North American slaveowners were one constituency among many, and one whose influence may have been on the decline because of developments elsewhere in the Atlantic world. but as part of a new independent republic, they were quite influential.
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interesting thing to think about is gerald horne’s argument that a break with london was inevitable given the emergence of a racial caste system in north america and london’s desire for a) less contentious relations with natives and b) a detente with free blacks in the caribbean
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Yeah, that seems very plausible especially if we read the whole Declaration rather than the (justly) famous opening. I'd add also fear of detente with Catholic population of Quebec.
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