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    1. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      no explain to me what i’m getting wrong

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    2. Alice‏ @AliceFromQueens 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @HeerJeet

      Pointing out self-contradiction is...how argument precedes? When the contradicting statements arrive with the same scorn for the (shifting) opposite view, it makes you a bit ridiculous, deserving an emoji. That's not what anyone means by "cancel culture"

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      well first of all i as i pointed out i didnt ever really hold the view you seem to want to attribute to me. second, i think its a pretty broad notion to say the least that an emoji constitutes an "argument"

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    4. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      third, that sort of rhetorical move is usually thought of as part of the phenomenon even if it doesnt really result in the most dire consequences. constantly hunting for petty past misstatements or old sentiments as evidence of bad faith or hypocrisy not part of how that operates

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    5. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      i mean that as a question "is constantly hunting for petty past misstatements or old sentiments as evidence of bad faith not part of how it all operates?" and i totally agree about self-contradiction, which is why i made my points

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    6. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      also its not a self-contradiction to change ones opinion, so you're making a really cheap point

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    7. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      my overall point is that you're really in no position to make digs about people's intellectual integrity here

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    8. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @AliceFromQueens @HeerJeet

      but going back to my original point about people who are obsessed with cancel culture being annoying i think thats confirmed

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @AliceFromQueens

      The empirical data on this is overwhelming.

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    10. Alice‏ @AliceFromQueens 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling

      Though you might find me annoying, I'm not monomaniacally obsessed with cancel culture. The empirical data of my TL is there for measuring anytime! But cancel-culture-spirit makes some potentially more interesting topics less so. It's a block that must be overcome.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @AliceFromQueens @lionel_trolling

      I'm too much of a materialist to believe that "cancel-culture-spirit" is a thing. (As a Hegelian, John might be more amenable). The material reality is what is damaging journalism is a massive loss of jobs due to long term structural decline of industry.

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        1. Alice‏ @AliceFromQueens 16 Jun 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling

          I didn't mean to give the term some Hegelian valence. I just a need a term broader than "cancel culture" to cover ugly harmful effects short of a firing.

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