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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      1. What the hell is happening at the New York Times? I think the larger crisis, going well beyond the argument over the Cotton op ed, is the crack-up of the elite consensus that dominated from 1939 until 1991 (and had a strong afterlife until around 2014).

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      2. The Times, along with other elite media, has long practiced a highly specialized form of objectivity (or rather, faux-objectivity): both-sidesism. Based on the narrow USA 2-party system, idea is that neutrality means giving articulation to competing elites (Dem & GOP).

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      3. Faux-objectivity & both-sidesism always ran into problems with politics expanded beyond elite quarrels and started to include the broader public (as in the 1960s and in our current age of protests).

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      4. One curious feature of the current strife between the newsroom & the opinion section is that both sides are smart enough to realize the age of faux-objectivity & both-sidesism is over. They just have different solutions to the problem.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      5. As @benyt's excellent article from yesterday made clear, the newsroom solution to faux-objectivity has come from a cohort of mostly African-American reporters battle-hardened at Ferguson who have pushed for an end to old euphemisms and evasions in writing about racism.

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    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      6. The newsroom solution is greater bluntness and diversity of experience (i.e. bringing marginalized groups into the writing of stories), then the op ed solution was expansion of political spectrum (good) combined with hot take nihilism (the source of trouble)

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      7. I want to be clear here that I'm not a hater. There's much that happened in @JBennet tenure as opinion editor that I admired (notably bringing on board Jamelle Bouie & @michelleinbklyn). Bennet was smart enough to know the old elite consensus was dead & need to move beyond it

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      8. As an example of what Bennet's genuinely helpful expansion of the political spectrum inside the Times, it's hard to imagine the pre-Bennet Times running @Vinncent Vincent Bevins's piece on how the liberal world order is built on bloodpic.twitter.com/CBirUuOrRD

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      9. But Bennet has had a harder time expanding with right-wing voices, in part because it is harder to find Trumpists who can write non-batshit stuff (one exception is @ToryAnarchist, who the Times has been running). So paper settled back to Never Trumpists, mainly.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

      10. More broadly, I think the break-up of the elite consensus has led Bennet into a kind of epistemological nihilism. The attitude seems to be "since we can't convince each other with arguments, we can at least entertain each other with hot takes & trolling." Hence Bret Stephens

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        1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Jun 2020

          11. In short, the fracturing of the New York Times is symptomatic of the larger fracturing of America (or rather the reality of a fractured America becoming more obvious in an age of protests). More thoughts here:https://www.thenation.com/article/society/racism-new-york-times/ …

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        1. Lurky Loo‏ @simonosbore 8 Jun 2020
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          "We get clicks with hot takes and trolling," you mean

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        2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 8 Jun 2020
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          Right—that’s was a really bad hire. He’s not good at the job, he doesn’t write smart polemics. But again, the fired coach thing obtains—that was a bad move for sure, but MG/JB/MA/EB were good moves. Fix process, don’t grovel for posting stuff by important pol, even if grotesque.

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        3. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 8 Jun 2020
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          I just can’t get over how the Times being impulsive/feckless/disorganized/ass covering after the fact/absurd in its *proccess* (“it was too harsh” or whatever—as if that wouldn’t delete 80% of op Ed’s) became the argument, *rather than Cotton’s repellent argument!** That on NYT.

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        1.  🇺🇸617to416 🇨🇦‏ @617to416 8 Jun 2020
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          It was bad enough when David Brooks represented my alma mater on the @nytopinion pages.

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        1. mf‏ @causerie 8 Jun 2020
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          and generate clicks. don't underestimate the clicks.

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        1. Resolve.Action.Love  🌻‏ @Snowman55403 8 Jun 2020
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          If only Bret were entertaining.

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        2. SomethingIsFischy  🧦 👈🏼‏ @edfischman 8 Jun 2020
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          "Entertain with hot takes and trolling." This is the direction WaPo took much more aggressively in the early part of the decade, with a a bevy of right-wingers whose takes were mostly in the digital version and existed to drive clicks and replies in the garbage comments section.

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        3. SomethingIsFischy  🧦 👈🏼‏ @edfischman 8 Jun 2020
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          .@NYTimes, taking itself more seriously, put these hot takes in the paper, which also gave them much more identification with the organization. Rubin works for WaPo, but no one really blamed WaPo editors for the stuff she was writing in her blog. NY Times path was more fraught.

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        1. constans‏ @constans 8 Jun 2020
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          Except that Bennet wasn’t “lead” to this. The Atlantic has been doing that kind of thing for a while, and Bennet was likely hired BECAUSE this was the editorial environment he cut his teeth in

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