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    1. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      You do know that newspapers can flip a switch that stops Google & Facebook from posting their content, right?

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    2. Neil Morrison‏ @ndmorrison 2 May 2020
      Replying to @JesseBrown @HeerJeet

      So, either pull your content from the largest platforms or accept those platforms get all the revenue from people viewing your content? Reminds me of arguments in favour of unpaid internships

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    3. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
      Replying to @ndmorrison @HeerJeet

      3rd option: accept that monetizing social media hits is both terrible for the quality of news and puts the fate of your news business in the hands of malevolent tech dicks, and instead build subscription-based businesses funded by people who actually care about your product.

      2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    4. Neil Morrison‏ @ndmorrison 2 May 2020
      Replying to @JesseBrown @HeerJeet

      So subscription gate your content on all major platforms? I can see this working for the NYT and the Economist. You see it working for the Ottawa Citizen. Papers seeing COVID spikes still face extinction from ad collapse. https://www.niemanlab.org/2020/03/newsonomics-what-was-once-unthinkable-is-quickly-becoming-reality-in-the-destruction-of-local-news/ …

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    5. Neil Morrison‏ @ndmorrison 2 May 2020
      Replying to @ndmorrison @JesseBrown @HeerJeet

      You need to somehow demonstrate that subscription revenue alone can replace previous subscription+ad revenue. Outside the NYT or philanthropic backed papers, where has that happened?

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    6. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
      Replying to @ndmorrison @HeerJeet

      I do? Why would you imagine that the next viable business model for news will account for every dollar lost to disruption? What entitles this industry to perpetual double-digit profit margins at corporate scale?

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 May 2020
      Replying to @JesseBrown @ndmorrison

      What entitles Facebook & Google to profit from work done by others? There business model is an artifice created by laws, which can be changed to allow for more even distribution of revenue.

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    8. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @ndmorrison

      The consent of those others to let FB & Google do so?

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 May 2020
      Replying to @JesseBrown @ndmorrison

      The same logic used to justify paying people sweatshop wages -- "they consented to it, didn't they?" But consent to a bad bargain only exists in a legal frame-work, which can be changed if needed.

      3 replies 2 retweets 11 likes
    10. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
      Replying to @HeerJeet @ndmorrison

      I'll ignore the weird comparison of newspaper companies with sweatshop labourers and ask instead: in your proposed legal frame-work, does everybody have to pay to link to other sites, or just those two companies?

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 May 2020
      Replying to @JesseBrown @ndmorrison

      I think the large social networks can properly be classified as public utilities and regulated as such. I'll leave it to the policy wonks to work out the details (I believe several countries are experimenting with ideas on this).

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        2. Arshy Mann‏Verified account @ArshyMann 2 May 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JesseBrown @ndmorrison

          #jeetisright

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        3. Arshy Mann‏Verified account @ArshyMann 2 May 2020
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          Considering those two companies alone have over 50% of the market share in digital advertising, I'd be happy to start with them and go from there.

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        1. Dave Besseling‏Verified account @davebesseling 2 May 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @JesseBrown @ndmorrison

          https://www.marketing-interactive.com/malaysian-publishers-next-to-demand-fb-and-google-share-revenue-aggregators-should-not-have-lions-share …

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        2. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
          Replying to @HeerJeet @ndmorrison

          And do you imagine that they would share revenue only with news companies, or with any site whose content they link to? If only the former, who decides what a news company is?

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        3. Jesse Brown‏Verified account @JesseBrown 2 May 2020
          Replying to @JesseBrown @HeerJeet @ndmorrison

          (I agree they should be regulated btw, but not in this regard. We already saw what happens when news orgs' business model is built on trying to get as much social media traffic as possible. It's disastrous.)

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