People remember the bad experiences — it is like the one teacher who humiliated you in front of the class — and telling them it is not real is like the Richard Pryor line: who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes? /2
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Replying to @LeoECasey @HeerJeet and
Moreover, the research you are no doubt relying upon — as it is called out now every time someone raises the issue — which talks about generally negative and positive tweets does not address the nature and intensity of the negativity. 3/
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Well, if we're going to argue anecdotally rather than rely on what social scientist have measured, I'll just say that in my experience the dirtbag left seems much less intensely negative than many other factions on twitter.
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Sorry, Jeet, but invoking Social Science in the form of a graduate student paper that wasn’t even published in a peer reviewed journal doesn’t exactly settle the issue for someone who has lived through two decades of ideologically motivated “education research.”
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Replying to @LeoECasey
Whatever its flaws, that's the only systematic study into this. Everything else is anecdotal. And in a hotly contested race, one should be skeptical of anecdotes about the particular perniciousness of one side.
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Replying to @HeerJeet
You are misunderstanding or misrepresenting a critique of what a faction of Bernie supporters have done on line, for a criticism of all Bernie supporters, a number of whom are my closest friends and comrades. The campaign made a critical mistake when it ignored AOC’s advice.
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Replying to @LeoECasey
The fact that a faction of Sanders supporters are rude online is true but banal. So are a faction of Warren supporters, Harris supporters, Biden supporters, etc. Lots of people are rude on line. Trust me on this, since I get it from supporters of all the candidates.
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Replying to @HeerJeet
I am not denying you your experience, but I am challenging your willingness to generalize from it. In my world, person after person has had experiences of the sort I describe, and none of them are 'centrists' looking to undermine the left.
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Replying to @LeoECasey @HeerJeet
I also think there is a difference between a person like you or I, in relative positions of power in an on line and discursive world, having to deal with an asshole tweet, and...
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Replying to @LeoECasey @HeerJeet
a person like the Oakland teacher who wakes up one day and finds her life's work misrepresented and under scurrilous attack by hundreds of tweets and posts, because she is just so much collateral damage in an effort to discredit Warren.
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I'm not denying the dirtbag left can be toxic & abusive. What I'm denying is that this is unique to them (as opposed to common on social media). It's worth looking at the TL of women of color who support Sanders (say Omar or Joy Gray) to get a sense of how common this is.
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