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    1. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 14 Dec 2019

      Seeing people defend Corbyn by saying Labour did OK in 2017. Boris Johnson is a sinister clown, but he’s effective in a way w media. 2017 Labour didn’t run against, say, John Major or David Cameron. They ran against the inept, hapless Theresa May

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @DanaHoule

      Percentage of votes Tories got under Cameron, 2015: 36.9%. Percentage of vote Tories got in 2017 with May: 42.4%.

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    3. John‏ @johnlk_80 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @DanaHoule

      Any analysis of voting patterns that just looks at the two party vote is going to badly misunderstand what is going on, I think. Tory+Labour 2005: 67.6% Tory+Labour 2010: 65.1% Tory+Labour 2015: 67.3% Tory+Labour 2017: 82.4% Tory+Labour 2019: 75.7%

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    4. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @johnlk_80 @HeerJeet

      And if you give Labour all the seats won by the Lib Dems & SNP, they’re still below their 2017 total, & over 100 fewer seats than the Tories

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @DanaHoule @johnlk_80

      Yes: the fact that a 1.2% increase of Tory vote share turned a minority government into a landslide suggests that the underlying issue is the FPTP system. Corbyn is, I think, rightly to be condemned for following a bad strategy in that system in 2019.

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    6. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @johnlk_80

      This reminds me of the scene in Repo Man where Otto, dying on the floor of the convenience store, & w an opportunity to reflect honestly on what he has done, blames society for his life of crime.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @DanaHoule @johnlk_80

      How is "Corbyn followed a bad strategy under the system he had" blaming society? Is saying "Clinton followed a bad strategy under the system she had" also blaming society?

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        2. John‏ @johnlk_80 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @DanaHoule

          I just don't see how FPTP is really the culprit here. If you go from down 2.4% to down 11.5% against your main rival, you'll do badly in any electoral system. You know who can complain about FPTP? The Lib Dems, who increased their vote share by 50% and lost a seat.

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        3. Mario‏ @ForkyMcSpoon 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @johnlk_80 @HeerJeet @DanaHoule

          The idea is that if Lib Dems did get proportional seats, they could enter coalition with Labour to stop the Tories/Brexit. I agree in general... But I don't think it could happen with Corbyn.

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        1. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @johnlk_80

          https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/metaphor/ …

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        2. John‏ @johnlk_80 14 Dec 2019

          Major/Kinnock? Heath/Wilson Round 2? I guess Attlee/Churchill rounds 1&2 were pre-TV.

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