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    1. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019

      I think that the energy and dynamism of the socialist left is the most exciting thing that has happened in my lifetime in US politics. I want it to continue to grow and build, and work as I can to be part of that

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    2. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019

      However, I also think it's important to be realistic about where things are. As a matter of presidential politics, Sanders saying of Warren, "I'm a socialist and she's not" is probably why he's going to get 20% of the primary vote and she could well win

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    3. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019

      It's a totally fine thing for him to say--it's not really an attack on Warren for most people and in fact politically in many ways it's probably helpful to her--and it's totally fine for socialists and socialist institutions to support the candidate who says he's a socialist

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    4. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019

      Speaking purely personally I admire both of these candidates; Sanders is closer to my views and my tradition; the intense partisans of both candidates overstate the virtues of their fav and understate the downside risks, but what else is new? That's politics

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    5. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @PatrickIber

      This is a good thread (and I will retweet it. But I think socialists need to put a bit of thought into what exactly that means when the socialist candidate cites FDR more than anybody else and doesn’t even have a program of “visionary gradualism” beyond a pumped up welfare state.

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    6. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @yeselson

      For my money the idea that Sanders and Warren want the same things and just use different language is about 50% true / 50% false. It is genuinely true that Sanders speaks the language of the left, thinks in terms of left institutions, while Warren speaks left liberalism

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    7. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @PatrickIber @yeselson

      I think that's the kernel of truth that our friends at Jacobin are after--that if you want to build socialism, you get a socialist candidate who wants to do the same.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @PatrickIber @yeselson

      On the other hand, as I have expressed to you before, I think the chance that a Sanders presidency finds it impossible to govern and proves disastrous for the socialist movement is a real possibility and I don't see it thought through enough for my taste

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @PatrickIber @yeselson

      There's a school of left thought that the path to socialism is precisely that a President Sanders would face immense opposition by the establishment, which will in turn radicalize the population. It's a variant of accelerationism

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    10. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @yeselson

      Yeah, I get that. But I also teach Chilean history every semester and I don't see it working out that way-- if you radicalize and you're still the minority, you're fucked. I guess that's part of why I'm so deeply agnostic in this primary

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Oct 2019
      Replying to @PatrickIber @yeselson

      I'm not saying it's a good plan.....

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        1. Patrick Iber‏Verified account @PatrickIber 12 Oct 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @yeselson

          I know, I know. Just explaining why it makes me uneasy

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