1. Lost amid the outrage over Scorsese's dissing of Marvel movies is the curious fact that Scorsese is, for better or worse, a formative influence on the current wave of dark, gritty superhero stories.
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3. In fact one of the ill-advised prequels to Watchmen even underscored the point by haveing Rorschach meet Travis Bickle.pic.twitter.com/FjRBno8ROW
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4. "Joker" is, in truth, a mediocre movie but there's some interesting ideas behind it, one of which is to return the dark, gritty superhero to it's place & time of original origin, the Martin Scorsese Extended Universe of Taxi Driver & King of Comedy.
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5. The Scorsese homage plays into the (surprisingly strong) class warfare sensibility of "Joker." The origins of the Joker as an anti-social psycho is located in the very birth of neoliberalism amid the deindustrialization and tanking of the great American cities in the 1970s
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6. I have some more thoughts on the cultural politics of Joker and the influence of Scorsese here: https://www.thenation.com/article/movie-joker-class/ …
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Alan Moore and the MCU is pretty apples and oranges though.
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Not arguing that they're Great Cinema™, but I'd bet Scorcese wouldn't have quite the same derision for the Frank Miller/Sin City adaptations.
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Wouldn’t the proper comparison then be between Alan Moore’s writing and Paul Schrader’s?
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Isn’t this also a riff on film noir voice-overs?
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Schrader/Scorsese got the idea from film, Moore (and Frank Miller) most likely were inspired from Taxi Driver (just going by tone & visuals).
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