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    1. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 3 Oct 2019

      1/ A HUGE number of people, including many influential bluecheck types, are shitting all over this piece without reading it. But it's good! I don't agree with every framing decision -- it's thousands of words on a contentious subject, so how could I? --https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/gavin-mcinnes-interview/?utm_content=buffer04fd2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer …

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @jessesingal

      I read it Jesse. It's not good. It's a whitewash.

      6 replies 3 retweets 78 likes
    3. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      the only part i cringed at was her I-still-hope-he-likes-me bit, and the part at the end about him still having kindness (though the sin there is more banality than anytthing). what else did you find whitewashy?

      5 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @jessesingal

      I think the theory of bigotry being offered here (just a bunch of lost guys looking for someone to blame) is too generous.pic.twitter.com/FAFLbpkjwN

      3 replies 2 retweets 32 likes
    5. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      that seems right to me! I mean for a paragraph-long lay explanation. Everything we know about ISIS recruits, for example, suggests something *approximately* like that is what occurs, though wouldn't endorse every word

      1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
    6. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @jessesingal @HeerJeet

      Yeah no he's not going to change. He's past the point of no return now.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    7. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @Vetarnias @HeerJeet

      def not -- but we're discussing the issue of a broader theory of radicalization. i didn't think romano was that far off in the idea of disillusioned young men falling into a terrible ideology out of a search for meaning and community and scapegoats

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @jessesingal @Vetarnias

      I should add that I think the problems with the piece come more from genre than ideology -- it's hard to write a long profile without expressing some empathy & exculpation (otherwise subject is too one-dimensional). Problem is McInnis is a genuinely bad dude.

      5 replies 1 retweet 26 likes
    9. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @Vetarnias

      I gotta think about that. I didn't think there was much in the piece attempting to exculpate him, though, and I'm very in favor of humanizing bad people under almost all circumstances

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 3 Oct 2019
      Replying to @jessesingal @Vetarnias

      I'm all for humanizing but I don't think that's so easy with a character like McInnis who is very conscious of his image & self-presentation. Might work better with a profile of a Proud Boy.

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        2. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 3 Oct 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Vetarnias

          Sure but that was a big point of the piece! She explained that he does this whole BS shtick where he says offenisve stuff, retreats to just joking, repeat cycle. No one would come away from reading that thinking anything he says should be taken at face value. E.g. the kicker

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 3 Oct 2019
          Replying to @jessesingal @HeerJeet

          When you show up with a samurai sword at a public event to commemorate the assassination of a Japanese politician, you're well past the point where we should still have to be uncertain as to whether to take you at face value or not.

          0 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
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        1. Fatuous Pauper‏ @basedc1 4 Oct 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jessesingal @Vetarnias

          "I'm all for humanizing people that I like, but this guy I don't like." You are a shining example of mediocrity.

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