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    1. Matthew Zeitlin‏Verified account @MattZeitlin 30 Sep 2019

      it's funny how many committed leftists have the cultural tastes of, like, a 19th century minor aristocrat or bourgeois. they love reading balzac and trollope, read the financial press, listen to orchestral music and operas.

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @MattZeitlin

      Fredric Jameson's love of Ford Maddox Ford is part of this story.

      5 replies 1 retweet 41 likes
    3. JW Mason‏ @JWMason1 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @MattZeitlin

      Ford Madox Ford is good! Lots of old European-American culture is good. To the extent that there is any there here, I think it's pretty much that people who read lots of books, often like books.

      2 replies 0 retweets 74 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @JWMason1 @MattZeitlin

      No, I think Matt is on to something, which is that there is a tradition of Marxists liking reactionary/conservative writers. Marx/Engels on Balzac, Lukacs on Mann, Jameson on F.M. Ford & Wyndham Lewis, Anderson on Anthony Powell. It's a real thing.

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    5. JW Mason‏ @JWMason1 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @MattZeitlin

      I kow a bunch of Yeats and Larkin poems by heart. So what? There's this weird thing here where you first accuse leftists of imposing a rigid PC purity test on literature, and then when you notice that they don't, instead of revising your views you just add a charge of hypocrisy.

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    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @JWMason1 @MattZeitlin

      Matt is not making a charge of hypocrisy! He's noting an interesting quirk.

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    7. Matthew Zeitlin‏Verified account @MattZeitlin 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @JWMason1

      yes in my experience the people i'm thinking of (engels, piketty, perry anderson) like those writers *because* of their left wing politics not in spite of them

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @MattZeitlin @JWMason1

      I wouldn't put myself in the same league as Perry Anderson etc but I also really like reading reactionary writers like Gene Wolfe, Anthony Powell and Wyndham Lewis (the all the great modernists, really) in part precisely for their politics.

      2 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
    9. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @MattZeitlin @JWMason1

      Delany’s love of Heinlein fits here.

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    10. The National Bird‏ @wadingshorebird 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @JimHenleyMusic @UojiM and

      I admit to having only read half of Book of the New Sun but I would not have guessed Gene Wolfe is a reactionary

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @wadingshorebird @UojiM and

      Wolfe was too good an artist for it to be obvious -- and in someways Book of the New Sun is as much a internal critique of Catholicism as a work of (very disguised) apologetics.

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        2. The National Bird‏ @wadingshorebird 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @UojiM and

          Yet again confronted with my only regret about not being brought up Catholic - I never get to appreciate the critiques of it!

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        3. Danger & Cuddlekins‏ @Chiliandgarlic 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @wadingshorebird @HeerJeet and

          It's really quite wonderful, I recommend it to everyone. Hell, hope to subject my kids to it

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        2. Woke Mind Bacterium‏ @JimHenleyMusic 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @wadingshorebird and

          And I have a very distinct memory of Wolfe at a con panel saying to the audience, *If you try to tell me poverty is the fault of the poor I will shoot you, and I know how to do that from Korea*. (Words to that effect.) He was a very heterodox conservative.

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @JimHenleyMusic @UojiM and

          He mentioned somewhere that he had been a "National Review conservative" in 1950s and 1960s but changed. So yes, heterodox. His main conservatism was gender but even here there's complexity: Severin is a kind of spiritual hermaphrodite.

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        1. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @wadingshorebird and

          When I think of Wolfe's reactionary politics I think of his unironic royalism. But the SUN books are some of the clearest anti-royal statements in fantasy, where the greatest king is Satan in one and the Demiurge in another.

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        1. Alan Pennie‏ @alan_pennie 1 Oct 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @wadingshorebird and

          I remember a passage where Severian's mentor ghost (can't remember his name, it's a long time since I read the series) is catechising him about his politics. A pretty strong indication of the author's own political views.

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