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    1. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      This has got to be one of the more ridiculous conversations I've ever had on twitter, though it did give rise to some interesting comments. So, @HeerJeet, let's clear the air. The primary issue is how you responded to me, which everyone can see here: https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1178143907101757440 …pic.twitter.com/oWPLJVqONL

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    2. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      I couldn't, frankly, care less, about how you use the word "gestalt," given it's an esoteric word w/o fine grained encoded meaning for many speakers. If one combs through this ridiculous, but at times interesting, thread, you will not find a single instance of me policing usage.

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    3. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      Nor would I have particularly cared about the silly "Chomsky Liked Pinker!" reference if it hadn't been used w/in the context of the denigration of my own skills. I've seen the way you spoke to male experts into this convo & I've seen the way you spoke to me (There's a diff)

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    4. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      I will however somewhat police your use of the term "neoliberal," in this convo, though I do so on conceptual, not linguistic grounds. I could be a neoliberal, communist, socialist, anarchist, liberal, etc. & none of that would have any bearing on my knowledge of linguistics.

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    5. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      The fact that you would bring this terminology up in an unrelated conversation tells me the term "neoliberal" is basically meaningless to you, outside of it being a descriptor for people who don't agree w/ you.

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    6. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      Now, to be clear, perhaps some of this is a linguistic convo, given I am offering a descriptive analysis of how you use the term "neoliberal" (w/o real denotation). I am not, however, telling you you cannot use the term this way. Overall, I will say that it made 0 sense here.

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    7. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019

      And that is, again, a conceptual judgment, not a linguistic one.

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 Sep 2019
      Replying to @magi_jay

      I was wrong to denigrate your expertise (and really shouldn't have been invoking linguistics for an argument about popular usage). And, yes, whether you are a neo-liberal or not is immaterial to the issue on hand.

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    9. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      Just for the record: you should be invoking linguistics for arguments about popular usage.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 Sep 2019
      Replying to @magi_jay

      I dunno -- as we argued out the debate I realized that my thinking on this rooted in morality and philosophy rather than linguistics. I think language belongs to everyone not just experts.

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        2. Magdi Semrau‏ @magi_jay 28 Sep 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Jeet, you are expressing the view of linguists. But actual behavioral/cognitive analysis does take training. I don't think you actually know what "linguistics" means. Also fairly unconvinced about "morality" and "philosophy" at this point, given just how nonsensical this point is

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 28 Sep 2019
          Replying to @magi_jay

          Agree, the study of language and how it works takes analysis and I'm happy to defer to the hard-won knowledge of experts. But language is also something almost all humans use -- and as a writer I think my job is to attend that common usage.

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