1. This is a good thread and inspires some thoughts on Leo Strauss, James Burnham, the Simpsons, Lisa Simpson, Jebediah Springfield, & Carl Jung. https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1164297549869658112 …
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8. But contra Strauss, Burnham & Lisa Simpson, I'm not sure that a noble lie is necessary. It's my democratic conviction that people are smart enough to have a complicated patriotism, that acknowledges both the achievements and crimes of the past.
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While this is true, Carl Jung also argued the danger of this. For example Jung says... "Until you make the unconscious [invisibile] conscious [visibile], it will direct your life and you will call it fate."
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I really don't see what's so difficult about separating veneration for the documents and ideas of the founders from the character of the founders themselves.
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It is undeniable that all societies are bound by common opinions and if subject to too much scrityn or scepticism they dissolve. This is simply story of Socrates vs Athens. Name a society founded purely on consent or purely on coercion that still exists?
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More broadly a myth is a story and all stories have an element of truth but they are not philosophy. One can philosophy or illustrate philosophy through stories but you cannot found a community on philosophy. It is nonsense on stilts or building the attic first.
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People make meaning of their lives and establish identities and allegiances through narrative, so which ones get to count as history or become tradition matter quite a bit. Those Erickson tweets really emphasize the degree people will go to insist on their own virtue
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But also academics analyzing the role foundation myths play, e.g., David Apter on "Mao's Republic" or Benedict Anderson in "Imagined Communties."
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Yes, "rightwing thought in last century... has pursued the... explicit embrace of myth." It had to. The evidence against rightwing ideas only grows. They had to shun reporters, teachers, science... and after the millennium, reality. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Reality-based_community …
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My understanding of Jung is that he was essentially saying that’s how our brains are wired.
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