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    2. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mattyglesias

      Plus a concern that it would do more to energize Rs than Ds. There is an availability bias issue: Impeachment advocates know lots of other liberals who would feel more engaged if impeachment happened. They don't know conservatives who would be more engaged because of it.

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    3. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @jbarro @mattyglesias

      Of course, typically the sort of people you're hearing the calls for impeachment from are high-propensity voters who would be highly engaged either way. But they tend to extrapolate from their own preferences to what they imagine the preferences of less-engaged people to be.

      4 replies 4 retweets 62 likes
    4. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @jbarro @mattyglesias

      Also, you're seeing a fair amount of reasoning from Trump's instincts here ("He'd hate being impeached!") from the same people who caution against reasoning from his instinct to engage in racist attacks to conclude that racist attacks are good politics that help him win.

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    5. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @jbarro @mattyglesias

      I think it is quite possible that impeachment would be to Trump's (modest) political advantage but he'd still find it personally humiliating and totally hate it.

      8 replies 4 retweets 64 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @jbarro @mattyglesias

      Surely the question of impeachment shouldn't rest either on Trump's poll numbers or his feelings but whether or not he committed serious crimes. I think the evidence he has is overwhelming, so immaterial if it would help his poll #s or hurt his feels.

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    7. Megan McArdle‏Verified account @asymmetricinfo 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @jbarro @mattyglesias

      Surely it matters whether impeachment actually makes it *less* likely that he will leave office? I mean, I'm open to argument on whether or not that's true, but if it is, it seems silly to start a process which will actually have the opposite of the desired effect.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 26 Jul 2019
      Replying to @asymmetricinfo @jbarro @mattyglesias

      I think that's a fair argument although I'm not sure we can predict whether impeachment will help or hurt Trump. But, yes, this might be a case where absolute morality is at odds with cost/benefit analysis. Still, letting a president get away with crimes is a bad message.

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        2. Richard Yannow‏ @RichardYannow 26 Jul 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @asymmetricinfo and

          The whole one point is that the House's decisions are in no way determinant of if he gets away with crimes. The Senate will not vote him out. If the Senate would, the House would impeach in a second.

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        3. Lesley, jabbed++  🟩‏ @HappyRumbletum 26 Jul 2019
          Replying to @RichardYannow @HeerJeet and

          Have to agree with you there. A failed impeachment attempt would be a disaster.

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        2. Megan McArdle‏Verified account @asymmetricinfo 26 Jul 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jbarro @mattyglesias

          I don't disagree that it's a bad message. On the other hand, I also think that impeachment needs to have democratic legitimacy, which will be dubious if a majority of the country opposes doing so.

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        3. Peter Hurley‏ @Peter_Hurley_ 26 Jul 2019
          Replying to @asymmetricinfo @HeerJeet and

          Any impeachment which resulted in actual consequences (i.e. removal) would need like 20 R senators to defect, which would require massive public opinion changes. Absent that, it's a message bill and can be treated as such.

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