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    1. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @jkfecke and

      yes. did I say every sentence was bad? did I insist that you were a nefarious Trump supporter? no.

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    2. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @nberlat @HeerJeet and

      I said you'd sometimes portrayed his foreign policy as less hawkish than Clinton's, or claimed his instincts were good, whatever that means. Like this. there was never any chance Trump would be an honest broker of any sort. why not make that clear?pic.twitter.com/1F1ftY3ICv

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @nberlat @jkfecke and

      Saying that Clinton "situated" herself to the right of Trump on some issues isn't the same as saying he was to the right of Trump. By criticizing Trump's "honest broker" remarks as too friendly to the Palestinians, Clinton ratified a hawkish worldview.

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    4. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @jkfecke and

      yes; her comments were bad. But you didn't clarify that he was lying. I think you should have.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @nberlat @jkfecke and

      Since I had already wrote that Trump was a BS artist & describe him as incoherent in first paragraph, I don't think I needed to rehearse the point he's lying every time I write about him. I assume my readers are adults & don't need stuff underlined. https://newrepublic.com/article/124803/donald-trump-not-liar …

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    6. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @jkfecke and

      I mean, in that graph, there's nothing that indicates you don't think he's an honest broker. It would even bolster your point in underlining Clinton's error by pointing out that Trump couldn't at all be trusted on Israel.

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @nberlat @jkfecke and

      In 1960, JFK accused Nixon of being too soft on Russia. That was wrong to do, whether it was true or not (it wasn't true). You don't need to say Nixon wasn't soft on Russia to criticize JFK for this. Point is about JFK being too hawkish, not about Nixon's policy.

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    8. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @jkfecke and

      ??? why wouldn't you want to point out that the statement was false? You're not fully informing your readers if you let false statements stand. This has been a huge problem with reporting on Trump.

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @nberlat @jkfecke and

      I honestly don't think it's necessary to point out that Trump is likely lying after I've already called him a bullshit artist. I mean you're the type of reader who wanted Nabokov to put in HUMBERT HUMBERT IS A BAD MAN & LIAR in every paragraph of Lolita.

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    10. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @jkfecke and

      ??? what? I think Lolita is great. And...you're not writing modernist fiction? You're trying to inform a general audience. "I don't need to point out lies because I'm Nabokov" doesn't strike me as a serious argument.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 23 Jun 2019
      Replying to @nberlat @jkfecke and

      Maybe Lolita is a bad example but I think it's fair to say you're hostile art that's complex & ambiguous, preferring propaganda. I say this as someone who has read you for many years. I think that carries over to how you read journalism.

      4:27 PM - 23 Jun 2019
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        1. Zachary Herz‏ @zacharyherz 23 Jun 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @nberlat and

          Is...journalism...supposed to be complex and ambiguous?

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        2. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @jkfecke and

          I mean, obviously you'd like to grind old axes here. Go ahead if you want; I'm not super interested in that particular discussion at the moment. I'll reiterate though that framing your forays into journalism as some sort of modernist literary experiment is really weird.

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        3. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 23 Jun 2019
          Replying to @nberlat @HeerJeet and

          I'm not making some sort of sweeping condemnation of your oeuvre, or your perspective. I'm saying, narrowly, that on this issue, you have been somewhat erratic, and don't seem to have firm control over what you're saying, or how it's going to be received.

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        1. Hugh Goggins  🧣‏ @guiltypanacea 23 Jun 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @nberlat and

          Maybe you didn't understand the complex and ambiguous art of the Clinton campaign?

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        2. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 24 Jun 2019
          Replying to @SFFFan42 @HeerJeet and

          I’m only familiar w Noah from Twitter; we’ve had a few fundamental disagreements, but my experience is he engages other people’s argument & he’s honest. And he’s not just some guy on the Internet w whom you were maybe brusque, you guys have a history. I agree you should apologize

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