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    1. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019

      I feel like I need to listen to this Naomi Wolf thing but I’m like scared to. Okay I’m going in.

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    2. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019

      okay I survived I think because there was so much build up for how bad it was. But it was pretty bad. I give her credit for seeing she’d misunderstood the terminology. But that’s a mistake you really want to catch prepublication probably.

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    3. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019

      2/ If you say all the other studies have missed this fact you really want to be sure you’re right.

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    4. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019

      3/ Did I catch this right there was an entirely different error/oversight he was starting in on when the recording stopped?

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    5. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019

      4/ It’s interesting, certainly doesn’t seem like a bad guess that “death recorded” might mean the person was executed. But working with old legal records is tough if you’re going into the raw records without a lot of knowledge in the field.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 24 May 2019
      Replying to @joshtpm

      I honestly think part of what went wrong here is that Wolf did historical research of a fairly weedy type (legal records) as part of an English PhD, which meant she didn't get training or contact with those who could help her navigate sources.

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        1. Sponson‏ @sponson 24 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @joshtpm

          Why the F would you read court records for an English Ph. D. with no legal guidance as to the terminology? It would read as gibberish (as it seemingly did for her, but that didn’t stop her)

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        2. hilzoy‏ @hilzoy 24 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @joshtpm

          As someone who advises PhD theses: if I were her advisor, I would have insisted she talk to someone who knew the relevant terminology inside out. This is not a tough call. On the other hand, if I were Naomi Wolf, I would have found such a person to talk to regardless.

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        3. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019
          Replying to @hilzoy @HeerJeet

          Agree. This is pretty basic. You can’t make sense of records distant in the past (or frankly even recent ones) without some technical grounding in the documents. And 5x that if you’re saying all the established lit missed something so big.

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        2. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 24 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          I’m not clear on the broader context. This was for a dissertation? I thought it was like her most recent book?

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        3. Dr. Sam A Hill‏ @drsamahill 24 May 2019
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          I think the book was based on her dissertation research?

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        1. Nick‏ @getyrtrouserson 24 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @joshtpm

          Even for weedy stuff, in the UK doctoral system you'd expect to have an outside examiner with sufficient background expertise to pick that up. (And yeah, she finished her thesis: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/19/naomi-wolf-fight-for-democracy-free-speech-outrages-interview … )

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        1. Judith Paltin  🌈‏ @jpaltin 24 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @joshtpm

          This is the second time today I have run into someone *assuming* some lack in English as a discipline. Do you honestly think we don't "get training" in navigating sources?!

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        1. Sonya White‏ @sonya30360 25 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @joshtpm

          Ah. Explains a lot.

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