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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 May 2019

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Yoram Hazony

      Yeah, childless people are losers & have nothing to contribute to the world. Jesus for example. What a sissy. And Isaac Newton: a jackass. & Beethoven, Rosa Parks, Jane Austin, Helen Keller, James Baldwin, Gertrude Stein. None of them had "real experience of family life"https://twitter.com/yhazony/status/1130574657948737536 …

      Jeet Heer added,

      Yoram Hazony @yhazony
      Locke never had children. Neither did Descartes, Hobbes, Spinoza, or Kant. Rousseau had children but gave them all up for adoption. In other words, Enlightenment rationalism was the construction of men who had no real experience of family life or what it takes to make it work. https://twitter.com/jim_nelson_ai/status/1130544586756169729 …
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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 May 2019

      Jeet Heer Retweeted tom cruise's thetans

      This defense of Hazony doesn't quite wash since there are lots of childless people who have had a "communitarian view of things": Plato, Jane Austen (celebrated as such in McIntyre's After Virtue) & Rosa Parks.https://twitter.com/KrishLingala/status/1130593980746481664 …

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      tom cruise's thetans @ThaSpecialestK
      Replying to @HeerJeet
      Ummm I feel like the point of the thread wasn't that their lack of family made them "losers," but that it could explain their veneration of the free individual as opposed to a more communitarian view of things
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    3. Joe Ro‏ @joero3 20 May 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      Yoram's particular animus is against the Enlightenment. All of the people you mentioned are not from that period.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 20 May 2019
      Replying to @joero3

      That's kind of the point. You can't blame childless philosophers for the Enlightenment when there were plenty of childless thinkers who produced communitarian thought before & after Enlightenment.

      3:34 PM - 20 May 2019
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        2. tom cruise's thetans‏ @ThaSpecialestK 20 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @joero3

          As someone who is very much not an enlightenment scholar, I would assume that there were also individualists at the time who had children. I can think of more than a few modern political figures with children and very individualist worldviews.

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        3. tom cruise's thetans‏ @ThaSpecialestK 20 May 2019
          Replying to @ThaSpecialestK @HeerJeet @joero3

          What Hazony is saying kinda sounds right at first glance, but if you stop to think about it, it just falls apart. Having children just doesn't really seem to correlate with how individualistic or communitarian you are

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        2. Joe Ro‏ @joero3 20 May 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          I get that. But Yoram has hated the Enlightenment since grad school (I was there at basically the same time). I wasn't defending him, I was just adding info on his target. I said earlier I thought his argument was silly.

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        3. Joe Ro‏ @joero3 20 May 2019
          Replying to @joero3 @HeerJeet

          I should say I was adding info on his targeting. He will use whatever argument he can find to bash the enlightenment.

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