"Collusion was a seductive & convenient delusion. For many Americans, the truth that Trump really had won was too terrible to bear. The ease with which a racist, misogynist, serial con man slipped past every gatekeeper suggested something deeply sick at the core of our society."
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Replying to @AlecMacGillis
Nah. Alec, you are a tremendous journalist, but this take is unfortunate. The investigation was NOT about undoing the election. It was about finding out the level of not just illegal foreign involvement in an election, but involvement coming from a uniquely hostile actor.
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Replying to @CulRMartin
I don't think the column was arguing against doing the investigation. I'm certainly not. It's about the outsized attention and meaning invested in the investigation. Take it from me: it's been hard to get attention for the underlying problems behind 2016 amid the Russia fixation.
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Replying to @AlecMacGillis
I think the column was a pushback against "enthusiasm" for the investigation—and while its target is I think a strawperson (the "naive MSNBC fan," I suppose)—I take offense to its motif because I remain unapologetically enthusiastic about completing this investigation.
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Replying to @CulRMartin
Have to say, in my experience the "naive MSNBC fan" is no straw man or woman. I encounter them with great frequency in my daily travels!
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Replying to @AlecMacGillis @CulRMartin
I think the "naive MSNBC fan" does exist but would also note that based on mass protests & elections, many more Dems weren't watching MSNBC waiting for Mueller to solve everything but actively engaging in real world politics.
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Replying to @HeerJeet @CulRMartin
Hmm. "During one six-week period in 2017, the Intercept news site found that 53 percent of Maddow’s broadcasts focused on Russia, dwarfing discussion of any other issue."https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/rachel-maddow-the-lefts-powerhouse-on-cable-doubles-down-on-the-collusion-angle/2019/03/26/bd8701d0-4f36-11e9-a3f7-78b7525a8d5f_story.html?utm_term=.0592b4286156 …
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But how many people watch Maddow? MSNBC is not Fox News in that liberals get their news from a variety of sources. In a country of 350 million, one cable news show has little impact.
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Well said. The psychologizing of "the average MSNBC viewer" would be much more credible to me if the people employing that trope had done any sort of meaningful survey work to find out who this person "is." Grouping them in w/Fox ore even CNN viewers is sloppy analysis.
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I don't need survey work. I speak from experience. The countless people who get their news primarily from that source and only want to ask me about impeachment, Mueller, etc. It happens ALL the time, wherever I go.
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Agree, such people exist -- I've met them too! But I'll note that vast majority of actual activism has focused on substantive issues (Muslim ban, family separation, health care) rather than the Russia stuff.
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I think we have to filter the impeachment crowd into different categories. I think for many, collusion is a shorthand for many things including Trump making foreign-policy decisions based on possible business interests w/Russia etc. There is much to be investigated on that front.
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Yes, the homophobic trump/Putin sign crowd, the want a new Cold War crowd, the believe Maddow when she says RU will shut off your electricity in the winter crowd, and the “Bernie and Stein are RU stooges” crowd.
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