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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Mar 2019

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Adam Sternbergh

      1. Good brief thread on the difference between Canadian and USA higher ed. To which a little more can be said.https://twitter.com/sternbergh/status/1105520589094207494 …

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      Adam Sternbergh @sternbergh
      back in 2004 I ran into an old Canadian colleague about a month after I'd arrived in NYC how do you like it? he asked good, I said have you noticed how fixated everyone is on what college you went to? he asked they are? I said (1/2)
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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Mar 2019

      2. The biggest difference between Canadian & USA higher ed is that Canada has many fewer schools and they are roughly equal in quality. You can get an equivalent education almost anywhere. In USA, divide between Harvard and, say, Bob Jones U. is huge.

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Mar 2019

      3. Relatedly, in Canada frat/sorority system is weak. U of Toronto had frats but I din't know anyone who went to one. And athletics is minor. When I was there, Toronto football got, at best, an audience of few thousands

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Mar 2019

      4. SATs are a very small part of Canadian system, where people usually get in based on high school scores (I think SATs are used for foreign students). I never took a SAT.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Mar 2019

      5. Government funding plays a much bigger part of Canadian higher ed funding, and alumni donations are small. Which means entire social system used to extract alumni funding (sports, reunions, networking, college mystique) is much less significant in Canada.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 12 Mar 2019

      6. The American system has some advantages -- there is a lot more money in system -- but, in all honesty, it is much less focused on giving people an education than in giving them the right social connections.

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        1. Octavo‏ @DeadGodsBook 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          This is a bit tangential, but having attended an absolutely deranged right-wing evangelical university, I often wonder what it would be like to have had an education in Canada or the US that I wasn't ashamed of.

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        1. Andrew Ferguson‏ @epiktistes 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          we've even made "the right social connections" into wildly popular business/commerce majors now seen as so central that some students won't even take literature or history electives because they fear their parents cutting them off for studying things that "won't get them a job"

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        1. Bill Asher‏ @gcnp58 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          But in #2 you say there's a huge academic divide. And now you say US college choice is *really* about social connections.

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        1. Brandon Jonely  🌹‏ @Aldowyn 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          the public university system is absolutely massive, I'd point out. the ivies are 'just', you know, a funnel into the elite echelon

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        1. Michael Bolton‏ @michaelbolton 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          To the people who participate in that system, that's a feature, not a bug.

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        1. Mike Costa‏Verified account @MikeCosta 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          And which one of those, I wonder, will bring a person more financial stability, career opportunities, success and happiness in life?

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        1. Stephen Henighan‏ @StephenHenighan 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          The result is that a BA is a BA is a BA. Grads from McGill, UofToronto or Queen's may have a 10% advantage (or like to think they do), but if two people are competing for a job where they went to school doesn't predetermine the outcome as it does in US.

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        1. Nate Holdren‏ @n_hold 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          I suspect that those advantages accrue to a pretty narrow subset of US institutions since, as I'm sure you know, the money in the US system is massively unequally distributed. There's likely a line below which US system advantages are not present.

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        1. Mark‏ @flagg33 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          One minor caveat to the Canadian system is that the low cost of a degree has caused our job market has been flooded new grads, thus devaluing degrees. Disappointing to kids finish school and unable to stand out in the crowded job market. But at least everyone's mostly equal.

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        1. Tom Waters, 9/26/63-4/4/20‏ @slowboring 12 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Shamus Khan's book showing how the education and the social connections go to make one package is really great.

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