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    1. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @gabrielwinant @jacobin

      The problem is also chicken-egg. You won’t be able to “give people what they want” until you eliminate the procedural points of resistance. Changing procedure is *necessary* even if it’s not sufficient.

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    4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gabrielwinant @jacobin

      And is it the 1930s? With a mostly prostrate labor movement—teachers strikes are great, but that’s not massive numbers in the commanding heights. And per capita, chsngingveras, DSA would need 500k members to = SP circa 1912.

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    5. mkazin‏ @mkazin 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @gabrielwinant @jacobin

      More like 300k members But the SP was a party

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    6. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @mkazin @gabrielwinant @jacobin

      Well, you may be a great historian, but I’m a better mathematician than you are. 92 million pop then, 327 million today. ~ 125,000 SP members then; ~ 50k DSA members now. Put it together and per capita that’s about 3.55/ and = 435k DSA member’s now would be equivalent.

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    7. mkazin‏ @mkazin 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @gabrielwinant @jacobin

      we're using diff figures comrade. Pop in 1912 was 95 million, 325 M now. SP membership- 118k, DSA now 60K. So DSA would need roughly 360K members to equal that.

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    8. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @mkazin @gabrielwinant @jacobin

      Well, c”mon, slightly different! I didn’t realize DSA had risen to 60k, and you’re claiming 118, rather 125, and 325, total pop today, rather census 327, as of 2018, and 95 in 1912, rather than 92, census 1910. Big deal!

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @mkazin and

      Genuine question: wasn't actual membership of political parties much more common back then than it is now? I mean, wasn't a greater percentage of the electorate actual members of GOP & Dems?

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    10. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @HeerJeet @mkazin and

      I think McGerr saw long run decline that the New Deal order restored. But, iirc, political engagement (if white men of course) was indeed robust during Progressivism.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 Mar 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @mkazin and

      Right. I think the crucial point is that the DSA membership is exploding in a period where political engagement with big parties is historically low or in decline. That's significant, I think.

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        1. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 2 Mar 2019
          Replying to @HeerJeet @mkazin and

          Agree. It’s a huge country, so we’ll see what happens, but, yeah, that’s a real thing and it’s obviously part of the dynamic that has moved Dems left.

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        1. Measure for Measure‏ @MeasureMeasure 2 Mar 2019
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          Not convinced, given small starting base. DSA's official magazine indicates its membership: 2015: 6216 2016: 6745 2017: 28,811 2018: 46,261 2019: 30,484 Methinks the explosion had a hiccup this year. Could be a segue to email admittedly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America …

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