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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

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      1. To impeach or not to impeach? That is the question. It just got a lot more real with the new determination that Trump directed Cohen to commit a crime. https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1071175435206049792 …

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      2. Let's step back. Impeachment is a two-headed beast. It's both a legal process and a political process. The question is what dominates: the legal imperative of justice or the political pragmatics of what is possible.

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    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      3. Let's stipulate (as I think is reasonable) that Trump has committed impeachable offenses. If we see this as a legal process, then Congress has a constitutional duty to start the process, whatever the odds. Justice demands no less.

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      4. But what if we see impeachment as a political process. Then it becomes more complicated. Because then the reality is that even if Trump has committed impeachable offenses, it's not certain that you can get 67 Senators (i.e. at least 20 Republicans) on board.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      5. The political reality is that right now there are probably enough votes in the House to impeach but not enough votes in the Senate to remove. So what is impeachment without removal? A largely symbolic gesture.

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    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      6. In fact I think the political reality is that its virtually impossible to imagine 20 GOP senators voting to remove. Trump could hand Alaska back to Russia and he'd only lose 4 or 5 Senators (2 from Alaska).

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      7. So: Politics is in command. Impeachment without removal is only of symbolic value -- and dubious value at that. If the goal is removal, then the best path forward remains elections. In the meantime Dem congress can continue to investigate.

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

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      8. It's true that even a symbolic impeachment has value. But that goal -- the airing of offenses in order to make Trump & his enablers politically toxic -- can be achieved with house hearings short of impeachment. https://twitter.com/BalkansBohemia/status/1071196953143328769 …

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    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

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      9. Again, I agree with the goal here, but it can be achieved with hearings short of impeachment. https://twitter.com/Othemts/status/1071199204188540928 …

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

      10. To argue with myself a bit: the course I'm advocating (House hearings short of impeachment unless there is huge evidence) carries a real risk. For if Trump is guilty of impeachable offenses & not impeached then his crimes have been normalized.

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        1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 7 Dec 2018

          11. We're in a very murky place, with no clear answers and should be ready to change our minds. But for now, I think its best to think politically and keep our eyes on the prize. The goal is getting Trump out of office. 2020 is not too far away.

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        1. Brandon Jonely  🌹‏ @Aldowyn 7 Dec 2018
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          'if'?

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        1. zaron‏ @zaron5551 7 Dec 2018
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          regardless of whether you impeach him, he should be prosecuted where possible once he's left office (assuming he's not dead obviously)

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        1. -indy‏ @indigo_k 7 Dec 2018
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          If Bill Clinton got impeached for his lies, absolutely Trump deserves to be as well.

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        2. Funky Bi Guy‏ @angryblackbiguy 7 Dec 2018
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          And if the Senate won't convict then his crimes are normalized. The best course wouldve been to not elect a mob boss.

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        3. Steve Holmes‏ @BottyGuy 7 Dec 2018
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          Exactly, this is why no one cares about blow jobs in the Oval Office anymore.

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        1. dog-hearted scut‏ @dogheartedscut 7 Dec 2018
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          As part of a larger, all-encompassing anti-corruption message for the 2020 campaign, I could see impeachment hearings being a political win precisely because the politics are behind the legal/moral/ethical argument

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        1. Blue Bee‏ @Blue_Bee_pllntr 7 Dec 2018
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          Hold hearings. Trump world is damaged and crashing around them. Republicans can stay in political denial with info-echo-chamber insulating them. But politically neutered with no agenda already

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        2. sun rises‏ @sunriseseachday 7 Dec 2018
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          That is the risk worth taking. Make the gop endorse crimes. Then leave it to the voters in 2020. It’s zero sum now.

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        3. Tweetmix‏ @tweetmix 7 Dec 2018
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          I believe there are enough Republicans who won't be able to stomach this, especially when the redacted information is released. They're still American citizens first, and normal ppl don't want a criminal as their leader. And A LOT of GOP senators are up for reelection in 2020.

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