1. Now that Stan Lee is being eulogized far and wide, it's important to remember how marginal Stan Lee and his collaborators (Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko) were in the 1950s and 1960s.
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9. It was Lee who first conceptualized the Marvel line as a coherent universe (an outgrowth of encouraging his artists to put in cameos to cross pollinate the titles). And his carnival barkers voice, sometimes grating, gave the Marvel titles a tonal unity.
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10. The framing of the Marvel books as a coherent interlocking universe was the key shift. We're very used to this now in pop culture. Even frigging Lego has their own cinematic universe! But Lee in 1960s (perhaps influenced by sci-fi) was pioneerhttps://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/cinematic-universes/247152/the-9-cinematic-universes-currently-in-development …
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11. The key to Stan Lee's life is that he wanted originally to be a novelist (Stanley Leiber!) and did comics as a day job & pen name (Stan Lee). By the time he was 39 he realized the novel wasn't coming and so threw himself into the day job with a passion.
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12. My more extended thoughts on Stan Lee and his legacy here:https://newrepublic.com/article/152201/stan-lee-midwife-marvel-universe …
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13. My Lee piece should be read in conjunction with my earlier Kirby piecehttps://newrepublic.com/article/144558/jack-kirby-unknown-king …
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14. And also my Ditko obituary: https://newrepublic.com/minutes/149680/steve-ditko-co-creator-spider-man-doctor-strange-dead …
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I think there's enough books that Lee clearly had a strong authorial voice on (Spider-Man and the Silver Surfer book spring most to mind) where you can't entirely dismiss his work as a writer, even if his role as an editor may have been more important
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Stan Lee dialogue is a magical thing, almost instantly recognizable, whether he's making The Hulk or Stripperella or anything in between.
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The dialogue was groundbreaking too. There might be an argument that the whole Marvel thing doesn't work unless Lee gets Ben Grimm's voice right.
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