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    1. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      OnlineDefamationExpertHat Retweeted Asawin Suebsaeng

      Ok. Let's do a defamation analysis of this claim. Shall we? /1https://twitter.com/swin24/status/1053039794144636928 …

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      Asawin SuebsaengVerified account @swin24
      scoop: ex-senior Trump aide Jason Miller is now also suing Chapo Trap House host Will Menaker for the latter’s tweet earlier this week reading, "rat faced baby killer and Trump PR homunculus, Jason Miller, is suing my girlfriend for $100 million, cool!" https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-trump-adviser-jason-miller-sues-will-menaker-of-chapo-trap-house-over-tweet …
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    2. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      /2 First things first. Defamation requires a . . . anyone? Anyone? Yes. A provable statement of fact. Insult, rhetorical hyperbole, political bloviation, and opinion-based-on-disclosed-facts are not defamation.

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    3. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      /3 So, in the phrase "rat faced baby killer and Trump PR homunculus, Jason Miller," the words "rat faced" and "Trump PR homunculus" are patently not defamatory -- they're insults and rhetorical hyperbole. That's not defamatory. That's AMERICA. But what about "baby killer"?

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    4. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      /4 That one is a closer call. It's a reference to a story -- hotly contested, questionably sourced, and sued over by Miller - that he secretly dosed a pregnant stripper with the morning-after pill. Seems improbable. A Trumpalo providing free health care?

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    5. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      /5 Anyway, there the first question is whether it's a provable statement of fact. Weighing in favor of it being a provable statement of fact: it's an accusation of a specific criminal act (a reference to dosing someone), referring to a lawsuit about that accusation.

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    6. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      /6 Weighing against: it's on Twitter, it's put in trash-talking terms, it's surrounded by trash-talking language, it's part of a call-out, it's by someone known for trash-talk and not known for literal truth who fancies himself a comic, and sometimes intentionally is one.

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    7. OnlineDefamationExpertHat‏ @Popehat 18 Oct 2018

      /7 Would a reasonable person interpret that tweet as literally asserting the truth of the accusation against Miller, or just a troll tweaking someone over a news story, as a late-night comic might? It's a close call.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 19 Oct 2018
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      Why is it a close call? "Baby killer" is not Mennaker's natural speech (since he's pro-choice) but mockery of phrase used by anti-abortion people. And in the context of other comments you acknowledge as satirical.

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        1. gillonator‏ @gillonator 19 Oct 2018
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          I'm a lawyer in only the most technical sense, but it strikes me as not really a close call given the context.

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        1. Dank Hashlin‏ @CoughinEd 19 Oct 2018
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          Also as a lackey for trump hes responsible for this at the very least https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-opens-investigation-reported-death-child-leaving-ice/story?id=57132554 … So like yeah seems apt

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