1. This is a good tweet in a good thread & I want to expand on this point. Kirby & Kirby both had styles that were curiously at odds with their politics.https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1015417564158050305 …
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10. Kirby grew up in a world of groups: gangs, The Boy's Republic, the army, the team of Simon & Kirby (and its bullpen), his family. Ditko, by contrast, was one of nature's isolates.
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11. Kirby's stories always came back to groups: Captain America was an army man, the Boy Commandos, Challengers of the Unknown, Sky Masters, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Inhumans, New Gods. Often these were stand-ins for ethnicities or classes
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12. Ditko's characters, by contrast, were loners, misfits, oddballs & radically unclubbable: Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Mr. A, the Creeper, etc Often their masks covered their entire face, a mark of their social isolation.
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13. In 1965, Ditko quit Marvel & wrote a letter to Kirby saying (in effect) "Marvel & Lee are screwing us, you should quit too." Ditko as a bachelor could quit, but Kirby was married with four kids.He couldn't. At least not right away.
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14. In the early 1970s, Kirby did a gentle spoof of Ditko in an allegorical story about an Ayn Rand inspired eccentric who builds his own rocket to the moon, ahead of NASA. http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/effect/2011/11/02/2011someday/ …
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15. As an arch-individualist, Ditko died as he lived, alone. When the police discovered his body earlier this month in his apartment, he had been dead for two days.
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