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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 Jun 2018

      Jeet Heer Retweeted Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦

      Me (dumb guy): There are thousands of books using Enlightenment to mean a period in time & thoughts of Kant, Hume, etc. You (smart guy): Let's ignore them and define Enlightenment to mean whatever arbitrary ideas Steven Pinker welds togetherhttps://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1004426458368897024 …

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      Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦Verified account @Noahpinion
      Replying to @Noahpinion @UpsetPatterns and 2 others
      Now, if you define "the Enlightenment" as a historical time period, or as the sum of all statements by Kant, Hume, etc., then this might be true. But if you define "the Enlightenment" as the subset of ideas Pinker advances, then this also might be true, but needs more evidence.
      15 replies 34 retweets 294 likes
    2. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      Not a very fair dunk there, Jeet, because I don't say "let's ignore them", and I don't think Pinker is selecting his ideas arbitrarily. I don't think that's a fair characterization of what I wrote.

      3 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
    3. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Noahpinion @HeerJeet

      I think Pinker selects his ideas systematically rather than arbitrarily, and I also think that the Enlightenment as historical period is incredibly interesting and deserves the huge volume of scholarship it has received. So, no.

      5 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      If Pinker is offering a selective, streamlined version of Enlightenment then why not call it something else (just for clarity sake) like neo-Enlightenment or Enlightenment 2.0. Pinker wants to steal glamor of Enlightenment brand without accountability for its legacy.

      12:07 PM - 6 Jun 2018
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        2. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Sure, that would be good. I like "neo-Enlightenment". Anyway, your dunk was very far from a fair characterization of what I said... 😉

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
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        2. Bobo the Newt‏ @BoboTheNewt 6 Jun 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Noahpinion

          Enpinkenment

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        3. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
          Replying to @BoboTheNewt @HeerJeet

          I LOLed

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        1. justin van wormer‏ @jdvdub 6 Jun 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Noahpinion

          Why should we even entertain the idea that Pinker should be allowed to sever the ideas from their context and historic meaning as though that clarifies rather than muddles things.

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