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    1. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018

      Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦 Retweeted Jeet Heer

      1/This case against Steve Pinker's "Enlightenment Now" - i.e., that the Enlightenment created modern racism - has gotten a huge amount of attention and approval. But I want to push back against it just a bit.https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1004144583360557056 …

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      Jeet HeerVerified account @HeerJeet
      1. This @jbouie piece on the whitewashing of the Enlightenment is, as expected, excellent: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/taking-the-enlightenment-seriously-requires-talking-about-race.html …
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    2. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018

      2/It's true that many of the people we call "Enlightenment" thinkers - Kant, Hume, etc. - said racist things. But does that mean those racist things are part of "the Enlightenment"? Pinker et al. would say "no".

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    3. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018

      3/Now, that argument - i.e. that "the Enlightenment" represents a set of good ideas that we moderns get to pick and choose - has a flavor of "No True Scotsman" to it. It's not fair to defend an ideology by limiting its definition to the subset that we feel is defensible!

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    4. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018

      4/But it IS a worthwhile exercise to distill good ideas from historical intellectual movements, while discarding the bad ones. Ideas should not be package deals. We should get to choose which lessons we learn and which we repudiate. Otherwise, philosophy becomes religion.

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    5. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018

      5/So Pinker et al. SHOULD get to define "The Enlightenment" to exclude the racism of Kant, Hume, etc., as long as they make it clear that this is what they're doing. And doing this should disallow Pinker et al. from making arguments-from-authority.

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    6. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018

      6/Now, it ALSO might be the case that even the Enlightenment ideas that Pinker praises might be inextricably bound up with racism. But I don't think Bouie (or Heer) has made that case successfully, yet.

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    8. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
      Replying to @UpsetPatterns @jbouie @HeerJeet

      Jamelle wrote: "Race as we understand it—a biological taxonomy that turns physical difference into relations of domination—is a product of the Enlightenment."

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    9. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Noahpinion @UpsetPatterns and

      Now, if you define "the Enlightenment" as a historical time period, or as the sum of all statements by Kant, Hume, etc., then this might be true. But if you define "the Enlightenment" as the subset of ideas Pinker advances, then this also might be true, but needs more evidence.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Noahpinion @UpsetPatterns @jbouie

      The first two definitions (historical period of time & thoughts of Kant, etc) is how scholars use the word Enlightenment for many decades. To define Enlightenment as just "whatever Pinker pulls out his ass" is to have a very peculiar definition.

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        2. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 6 Jun 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet @UpsetPatterns @jbouie

          Yes, with the exception that "pulls out of his ass" doesn't seem like a good characterization of what Pinker is doing. I think he's trying to isolate a subset of Enlightenment-era ideas he feels is conceptually coherent, and call that "The Enlightenment".

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        3. A. J. Levin  ⚛️ 👙‏ @genealogist_CA 6 Jun 2018
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          If only Neil Postman were still around to set him straight.

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