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Professor in exile. Biologist. Seeker and communicator of truths. Spends time in the Amazon. Rhymes with flying.

Portland, OR
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    1. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14

      “’If you are a liberal, by definition, you believe that it’s better to let a certain amount of guilty people go free than to jail one innocent man. That’s almost the definition of liberalism. These people on the left aren’t liberals at all, actually.’”https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/opinion/stephen-elliott-moira-donegan-media-men.html …

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    2. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
      Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_formulation … Heather. This is Nonsense. This fundamental principle of justice is usually attributed to Blackstone (1760s) but it actually has a much older history than that - way back to Biblical times. It has nothing to do with Liberalism vs Conservatism.

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      Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14
      Replying to @SofaAssoc @CHSommers

      I honestly don’t know—my history is lacking. It’s a quote (w/in a quote—not @bariweiss’s words, either), but my sense is that this is at least a core value of democracy. Also: it’s easier to pin the inverse position on conservatives given “their” position on the death penalty.

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        1. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers @bariweiss

          You are correct. This is a core value of democracy. Any society's or group's willingness/eagerness to ignore this basic principle has depended entirely on who that society or group has hated at that given time. Religious & fanatical groups have loved to set the principle aside.

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        1. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers @bariweiss

          The strength & importance of the principle can be measured by how much special interest groups (whether conservative or liberal or whatever) would like to ignore it when dealing with whoever it is that they believe are the 'bad guys" of the moment.

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        1. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers @bariweiss

          At the present time, generally speaking, conservative-minded people are more likely to ignore this principle when it comes to issues like the death penalty, whereas extreme-feminist supporters would have us dispense with this principle when it comes to Sexual Assault.

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        1. Ernest Boehm‏ @ErnestBoehm Oct 15
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @SofaAssoc and

          Enshrined in the constitution good enough source for me. Show trial nations seem rather illiberal I would agree with the good doctor on this one. If not in the letter at least the spirit.

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        1. Dario Octavio Scotto‏ @darioscotto Oct 15
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @SofaAssoc and

          I don't think we can give democracy the credit for this principle which would not survive in a full democracy as you may guess would happen if we became one now. Mob rule would take effect and due process would die instantly.

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        2. Jacob Ridge‏ @JacobRidge Oct 14
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @SofaAssoc and

          Death penalty should be a small government issue. We don't even trust them with our money... Why would we trust them with who merits life or not?

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        3. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
          Replying to @JacobRidge @HeatherEHeying and

          Use of the death penalty needs to be an international moral concern.

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        4. Jacob Ridge‏ @JacobRidge Oct 14
          Replying to @SofaAssoc @HeatherEHeying and

          I don't know how to expect an international moral consensus on anything. If anything its best to not make out governments as moral actors at all.... We then get in these internal fights over morality and look... Now we all hate eachother.

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        1. John Tabita‏ @johntabita Oct 14
          Replying to @HeatherEHeying @SofaAssoc and

          I’m a conservative and also believe in the death penalty in extreme, heinous cases. But I agree with your assertion. I never considered it a “liberal” value, but a democratic one.

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