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Professor in exile. Biologist. Seeker and communicator of truths. Spends time in the Amazon. Rhymes with flying.

Portland, OR
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    Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14

    “’If you are a liberal, by definition, you believe that it’s better to let a certain amount of guilty people go free than to jail one innocent man. That’s almost the definition of liberalism. These people on the left aren’t liberals at all, actually.’”https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/opinion/stephen-elliott-moira-donegan-media-men.html …

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      2. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_formulation … Heather. This is Nonsense. This fundamental principle of justice is usually attributed to Blackstone (1760s) but it actually has a much older history than that - way back to Biblical times. It has nothing to do with Liberalism vs Conservatism.

        2 replies 3 retweets 15 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14
        Replying to @SofaAssoc @CHSommers

        I honestly don’t know—my history is lacking. It’s a quote (w/in a quote—not @bariweiss’s words, either), but my sense is that this is at least a core value of democracy. Also: it’s easier to pin the inverse position on conservatives given “their” position on the death penalty.

        7 replies 2 retweets 35 likes
      4. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers @bariweiss

        You are correct. This is a core value of democracy. Any society's or group's willingness/eagerness to ignore this basic principle has depended entirely on who that society or group has hated at that given time. Religious & fanatical groups have loved to set the principle aside.

        0 replies 1 retweet 25 likes
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      2. Lisa Mayfield‏ @tracygirl58 Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers

        But on the flip side being a liberal means that the woman should always be believed? Which is it?

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14
        Replying to @tracygirl58 @CHSommers

        "Believe all [fill in the blank]" is the mantra of the Authoritarian-Left, not of liberals, for lack of a better word. This is exactly the distinction being made in the quote: there is a loud minority of increasingly powerful activists who are opposed to due process & democracy.

        1 reply 10 retweets 61 likes
      4. The Death of the Left‏ @DOL2019 Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @tracygirl58 @CHSommers

        These intersectional activists have nothing to do with the left. The traditional left is concerned almost exclusively with political economy and class. The activists' divisive power-grabbing and constant disruptiveness is destroying everything, including the left.

        2 replies 2 retweets 6 likes
      5. Dario Octavio Scotto‏ @darioscotto Oct 15
        Replying to @DOL2019 @HeatherEHeying and

        Class struggle was fractured and rebranded into various identity struggles since the neo-Marxian critical theory of the Frankfurt School came to be. The intersectional types appear to be an outgrowth of the Left.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. The Death of the Left‏ @DOL2019 Oct 15
        Replying to @darioscotto @HeatherEHeying and

        Yes, a cancerous tumour that has all but destroyed the body. The FS shifted the debate from class to subjectivity, the post-structuralists from subjectivity to tribal identity. What a mess.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. Levi Tahaan Currie‏ @LeviCurrie Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers

        letting the guilty walk is just as bad as letting the innocent take the fall. No matter the system there will always be the area's were we get it wrong. Stop acting like law is a simple matter

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14
        Replying to @LeviCurrie @CHSommers

        Heather E Heying Retweeted Heather E Heying

        It is facile to imagine that you can have both things simultaneously--that is one weakness of the utopianism on the Authoritarian-Left. (That and the fact that utopia is a hopeless fantasy that too many people waste their lives chasing.)https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1051606172896088065 …

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        Heather E Heying @HeatherEHeying
        Replying to @VinnyM27
        You have to choose: Either some guilty people go free, or some innocent people are punished. Which do you prefer? Choosing one position over the other is not extreme. And fantasizing up a utopia in which neither thing happens is just that: fantasy.
        3 replies 4 retweets 33 likes
      4. Paul Loy‏ @DALOYBOY Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @LeviCurrie @CHSommers

        Every lad in the pub thinks they know what’ll make a utopia. “Everyone else is the problem and I know the solution!”

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Lord Majicus [Player Character]‏ @LordMajicus Oct 14
        Replying to @DALOYBOY @HeatherEHeying and

        I actually disagree, I think it's definitely worse to jail an innocent man than let a guilty man go free because I'd rather err on the side of anarchy as opposed to tyranny.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      6. Levi Tahaan Currie‏ @LeviCurrie Oct 14
        Replying to @LordMajicus @DALOYBOY and

        Thats fine, I however think that we could improve the system to be more accurate, cutting down on both failures should be a priority instead of just adjusting it so that while we dont convict the innocent the law is not upheld, and i mean the important ones like murder

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Defender of Truth‏ @billpu63 Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers

        The issue here is I think the #IDW is fooling themselves if they think the Democratic Party has a future for them. #walkaway @RubinReport has it right. Classical liberalism is now a right of center concept.

        1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14
        Replying to @billpu63 @CHSommers @RubinReport

        I see little future in either party, and agree with "walk away", but not the implied "walk towards." The special interests that the two major parties cater to are different (sometimes), but there is pandering to authoritarian loons in both, and both are rife with corruption.

        1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
      4. Defender of Truth‏ @billpu63 Oct 14
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @CHSommers @RubinReport

        I guess my thought is about where the center lies. The far right has been isolated and in my opinion is relatively few in number. The far left, and in that group I would include Marxist’s, socialists and post modernists, is far larger and less isolated from society.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Defender of Truth‏ @billpu63 Oct 14
        Replying to @billpu63 @HeatherEHeying and

        As the center of the curve moves leftward classical liberals which were once center left now become center right. Agreed that we must learn how to focus on the center but where I think the #IDW can help is by educating people and help move the tails toward the center.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 14
        Replying to @rcanacci

        I agree with you. I don't like the guy, or his politics, but he didn't "go nuclear." He did exactly what he would have done whether he was innocent or guilty of the accusations, which means we can't discern anything about the truth on the basis of his testimony.

        4 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
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