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Heather E Heying

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Professor in exile. Biologist. Seeker and communicator of truths. Spends time in the Amazon. Rhymes with flying.

Portland, OR
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    Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12

    Heather E Heying Retweeted Heather E Heying

    Halloween is just around the corner, so expect to start hearing sermons from members of the Woke Army about what you are and are not allowed to do. Seems a good moment to re-up this:https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying/status/991718586325454848 …

    Heather E Heying added,

    Heather E Heying @HeatherEHeying
    What has cultural appropriation done for you lately? Well, it did provide most of us with written language, algebra, astronomy, agriculture, and great music, to name just a few things… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tvauOJMHo … https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/991372927399378944 …
    12:53 PM - 12 Oct 2018
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    41 replies 125 retweets 590 likes
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      2. David Whyte‏ @Soulstorm99 Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        I'm really just waiting till the point where the entire thing is banned. We're now pretty much down to the original costumes like witches and ghosts. Witch costume? Culturally appropriating Pagan culture. Ghost costume? Deathist and offensive to those who have lost loved ones.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12
        Replying to @Soulstorm99

        "Deathist." Hilarious.

        0 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        But, you would agree, some costumes even if worn in "good fun" can be offensive. Probably best to retire some of them. Would you, for example, go out in public in blackface?

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12
        Replying to @DeTabachnick

        Yes: Intention matters, and sometimes ignorance is no defense. Blackface isn't cultural appropriation, it's phenotypic mimicry, sometimes even phenotypic mockery. That's *actually* racist, unlike much of what is being accused of being racist today.

        2 replies 2 retweets 15 likes
      4. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        OK. I think that is fair. What about the Indian Headdress? This is quite common, a clear example of cultural appropriation and considered similarly racist by many indigenous people, arguing it is a reflection of old "Cowboys and Indians" stereotypes.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12
        Replying to @DeTabachnick

        This warrants more than twitter allows, but Halloween is America's Carnaval (which is deeper, richer, older than Mardi Gras). Carnaval is about reversing power relations, exploring the liminal, trying on other identities. Borrowing, in this context, is often celebratory.

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      6. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        I get that. Again, call it "good fun" or celebratory. Nonetheless, when such appropriation occurs and it is considered racist by the objectified group, it seems to me that a change in costume is warranted. Traditions change as a community changes. That is a good thing.

        5 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12
        Replying to @DeTabachnick

        Traditions do change, yes--culture evolves, in part through borrowing. But trying to change culture with authoritarian tactics, even when those tactics are used by historically oppressed groups, rarely works. Rather, force sends behavior underground, where it grows, unseen.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      8. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        But here we are talking about Halloween costumes not some underground cult. I think you are missing the most basic point: some of these costumes are genuinely offensive. There are far better arguments against political correctness. I find this one superficial.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Collin R. Simonsen  🐻‏ @Collin4Congress Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        I'm in the middle of watching the Joe Rogan podcast with you and Bret talking a lot about sex. Never thought I'd find sex so interesting for a completely different reason than I usually am. Question: is it an insult for me to call my wife hot as opposed to beautiful?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12
        Replying to @Collin4Congress

        At considerable risk of wading into treacherous waters…No, because between you and your wife, sex is part of your relationship (I hope and assume), and hotness is inherently about sex. Although I hope she’s both--that is, that you find her both hot and beautiful.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Collin R. Simonsen  🐻‏ @Collin4Congress Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        Indeed I do. Thank you.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Raymond Joseph Denis‏ @GomokuRaymond Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        I, for one, will dress as a geisha...but don't worry, it's not cultural appropriation because as a trans-racial person I identify as a 32 year old Japanese woman

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Oct 12
        Replying to @GomokuRaymond

        Part of the considerable power of postmodernism is its ability to make shit up out of whole cloth, and then hold itself to no standards whatsoever. "You be you," and all that. Anyone going as an attack helicopter who doesn't identify as same? Problematic.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Raymond Joseph Denis‏ @GomokuRaymond Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        Attack helicopter..too aggressive for me. Now, a postmodernist Toyota Prius...that's a sweet costume. The problem of postmodernism was identified by Wittgenstein in his critique of the private language argument: there is no standard when what seems to be the case is "the case" .

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      2. Jamie Kilstein‏Verified account @jamiekilstein Oct 12
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        Just go as the woke army!

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      1. debra corso‏ @bendydebra Oct 13
        Replying to @HeatherEHeying

        Oh. Speaking of cultural appropriation- I stumbled upon this beaut a few weeks ago. Not even eyebrows are immune from the ire of the perpetually aggrieved. So pathetic.pic.twitter.com/qwKSEBv2Is

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