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Free speech activist. Darwinian reactionary. Gnon partisan. Frogs = implicit white identity. #humanbiodiversity

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    1. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 22
      Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

      My case is that developmental, dynamical systems have evolved. We use cultural, biological, and psychological tools. Now people in lower classes have less access to cultural and psychological tools needed to score well on the tests.

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    2. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 22
      Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

      And since the tests are constructed by people from a narrow social class, this is another reason why lower class people score lower, along with stress etc, which lower class people are more likely to be. It's a good hypothesis, better than inventing a biological/physiological

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    3. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 22
      Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

      mythological explanation of 'g'.

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    4. Tom Cobley-Hobbes‏ @HobbesianM Feb 27
      Replying to @Race__Realist @TheDisproof and

      I don't think "g" is an explanation. It's a phenomenon that suggests the likelihood of common factors that influence many abilities in the same direction. It doesn't tell us what the explanation (e.g., in terms of brain differences) is.

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    5. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
      Replying to @HobbesianM @TheDisproof and

      'g' is a myth. It's not biological or physiological. What explains test variance is not g, but a sociocognitive-affective nexus that differentially prepares individuals for test-taking.

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    6. Tom Cobley-Hobbes‏ @HobbesianM Feb 27
      Replying to @Race__Realist @TheDisproof and

      It's a statistical fact. Some inferences drawn from that fact might be myths, but not the fact itself.

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    7. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
      Replying to @HobbesianM @TheDisproof and

      The explanation isn't 'general intelligence' though. That's the myth

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    8. Tom Cobley-Hobbes‏ @HobbesianM Feb 27
      Replying to @Race__Realist @TheDisproof and

      You think it's a myth, I think more data is needed. You seem to follow Ken Richardson in thinking class differences are just a massive coincidence. I think evolution means any class differences must eventually become genetically entrenched under assortative mating.

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    9. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
      Replying to @HobbesianM @TheDisproof and

      The genetic class differences are due to genetic stratification. There are genetic differences between classes that are irrelevant to cognitive ability and educational attainment. No evidence exists that genes cause individual differences in IQ scores.

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    10. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
      Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

      Either way, natural selection acts to lower genetic variation in traits important for survival. I'm sure you'd agree that intelligence is important to survival. Therefore genetic variation for intelligence in the human species should similarly be low as well.

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       🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
      Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

      Come on. There is evidence of genetic differences causing differences in IQ scores. IQ does not just measure socioeconomics, but there is some correlation there since being dumb makes people poor. Just look at SAT scores: the richest group of blacks score = poorest whites

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        2. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @HobbesianM and

          Where? Where is the genetic evidence that poor people are poor because they're dumb? SAT scores are achievement tests not IQ tests and don't lend credence to anything.

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        3.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
          Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

          Most of what SAT scores measure is intelligence. They might even be better than IQ tests at that. Lots of evidence here, and I don't think this even includes the recent genetic association studies. Althyp has has also written some well-referenced articles.http://archive.is/ecnfW 

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        4. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @HobbesianM and

          The 'facts' can be explained by item analysis and selection which make up test http://construction.How  does the SAT,which is an aptitude test, test 'intelligence'? Correlations with it and 'IQ' tests are built in.

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        5. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @Race__Realist @HbdNrx and

          College grades and job performance correlate at .05 6 years after college graduation. Some good predictor...

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        6.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
          Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

          You can't effectively compare college grades across colleges and even across majors.

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        7. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @HobbesianM and

          Here's the source. Page 4. https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1151&context=marketing_papers … Thats the fact of the matter. Even then job performance and IQ correlation is low.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4557354/ …

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        2.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @Race__Realist and

          And the idea that intelligence doesn't help survival is crazy. Only in modern societies might it not be selected for, but that is an artifact of the welfare state and the last 150 years

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        3. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @HobbesianM and

          So then if intelligence is useful in an evolutionary sense then variation in intelligence will be selected against since natural selection lowers genetic variation in traits important for survival. It

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        4.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
          Replying to @Race__Realist @HobbesianM and

          Intelligence is also costly and has different value in different environments. Strength is obviously a good trait for survival, too, but there's plenty of variation in it.

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        5. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @HobbesianM and

          How does it have different value in different environments? The point of bringing up genetic variation is the sky-high heritability of IQ which is due to the flawed twin method. Controlled breeding studies don't show any heritability estimates that high for animals

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        6. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @Race__Realist @HbdNrx and

          Therefore it's the method we use to find the heritability that's flawed. Intelligence should have a low variation since it's a trait important for survival. See Ronald Fisher and others who have corroborated this.

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        2. Bananawatermelon‏ @Bananaaquamelon Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @Race__Realist and

          Genetic and Phenotypic variation in humans across the globe were established WAY before social class. Class stratification is a recent occurrence

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        3.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
          Replying to @Bananaaquamelon @Race__Realist and

          I don't know what your point is, but hierarchy has always existed, even in small tribes and non-human animals.

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        4. Bananawatermelon‏ @Bananaaquamelon Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @Race__Realist and

          Arguing against the contention that current class structure is based upon genetic "inferiority" and "superiority." Class is largely not merit-based. Before the state, social hierarchy was mainly based upon individual ability, age and sex, but now it is inherited wealth and status

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        5.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx Feb 27
          Replying to @Bananaaquamelon @Race__Realist and

          Variation of individual ability is often inherited. It's called genetics.

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        6. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Feb 27
          Replying to @HbdNrx @Bananaaquamelon and

          Genes aren't the only things inherited. New definitions don't use that terminology.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Tom Cobley-Hobbes‏ @HobbesianM Feb 28
          Replying to @Race__Realist @HbdNrx and

          Class is at least partly merit-based. Depending on customs of marriage & inheritance, inherited wealth usually dissipates within a few generations. Even under primogeniture, two stupid heirs in a row, or one very stupid heir, can dissipate even the vastest of inherited fortunes.

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        8. Tom Cobley-Hobbes‏ @HobbesianM Feb 28
          Replying to @HobbesianM @Race__Realist and

          ...And unless there's a very rigid caste system, there are always new people rising into a class. These tend to be exceptional in ambition, energy and intelligence, because these traits tend to be needed, in order to rise.

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