You keep undermining me, and you keep patting our opponents on the back. There are good arguments against race? If by "good" you mean conniving, manipulative and cunning, then yes, I'd agree.
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Yes and I didn't imply that democracy was 'good', I only asked if people should be treated as equals in a democratic society
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That depends on whether you want to tear down democratic society
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In favor of?
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How about we just rephrase the question, "Should people be treated as equals?"
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What are the terms here? What are we discussing? Court of law? Everyday life? No assumptions based on past history etc?
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I don't know, I'm just rephrasing your question.
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I think people *should* be treated as equals, but that doesn't mean I think 'equality of outcome' *should* be forced (which is what egalitarians believe).
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Clearly merit has to be part of any society...but we’re all one car accident away from disability, as are all the people we love. If you are lucky you will never have to rely on the kindness of strangers, if you are not lucky you will be happy for the humanists
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Ah so you are the one who wishes to use science for political purposes...and not me...who is well-versed in postmodern theory and a “mainstream” scientist. How interesting