Why would you think defense of territory and resources is unique to humans, anyway? That would happen without an organized state.
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Large scale societies are unique to humans. Maybe you should read the thread to get context before replying.
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Replying to @PoisonAero @The_Petrichory and
In this context, "nature" contrasts with "the state": a power structure by which a collective regulates the behavior of its members.
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Individuals and groups of most species protect their property. Try to rob a wolf pack of its kill with nothing but your bare hands.
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Replying to @The_Petrichory @PoisonAero and
Humans decided that too much violence occurs over misunderstandings of boundaries of territory and who owns what.
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So we created systems of law and order to punish and correct behavior that would naturally lead to violent outcomes otherwise.
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You say that the state is necessary to protect property. That isn't true. People would do it on their own without a state.
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On a small scale, you have small scale methods of control. On a large scale, you need large scale methods of control.
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Replying to @PoisonAero @The_Petrichory and
Even a wolf pack has a dominance hierarchy and thus, on a very small scale, some kind of centralization of control.
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You are arguing that states "create" capitalism, and losing the thread. I am arguing that capitalism arises naturally as emergent order.
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States also arise naturally
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Replying to @HbdNrx @PoisonAero and
It is odd that states on a gold standard and states with fiat currencies, fractional reserve central banking, fiscal and monetary policy...
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Are both called "capitalist" despite the radical differences in their arrangement and outcomes for citizens dwelling within them.
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