I saw a large jumping spider the other day carrying a fly that was about half it's own size. Quite a catch for the spider.
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Oh, and once we have our minimized suffering world of plants (and herbivores), guess what ecological niche opens up: predators
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In sum, the right thing to do is to eat the effective altruists.
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Eating effective altruists is the utilitarian solution!
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@HbdNrx hi, effective altruist here. Civ means what - civilisation? The thing we have already and EAs would like to bring to poor countries? -
Yes. EA problem is shortsighted on civilization and fertility/human genetic variation. Add more Malthus
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In fact, it's hard to think of a more effective way of collapsing civilization than what most EAs are doing to Africa
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@greenrd EA is focused on maximizing utility, which generally means minimizing suffering. So they notice suffering in Africa -
@greenrd and decide that they can save the lives of x people by spending some amount, and they try to maximize x. -
@greenrd The problem with this is that it's contributing to the massive population growth of Africa. See http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-worlds-most-important-graph/ … -
@greenrd What's going to be the long-term result? Mass migration out of Africa and/or massive die-offs when aid is removed. The result will - 5 more replies
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