@HbdNrx @Tipsycaek @wellplayd_ggate @SmailsHat
Depends what you mean by work.You don't know if you're measuring hard work or innate ability
@Jkqyl @Tipsycaek @wellplayd_ggate @SmailsHat to some extent it doesn't matter, but the influence of prep on these tests isn't that large
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@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat The examples were short term prep. Who knows how much effort put into them. -
@Jkqyl there are diminishing returns -
@HbdNrx IIt takes years to get good at any skill. Maybe there are diminishing returns. Fact still applies. -
@Jkqyl they try to teach math to dumb kids in school for years, but dumb kids still can't do math. -
@HbdNrx 1. They don't necessarily want to put in the effort. 2. They may have less potential. Both have to be factors. -
@Jkqyl innate desires aren't necessarily much more changeable than innate abilities, and the data indicates that differences in results are -
@Jkqyl far more about ability than effort (for test results) - 4 more replies
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@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat I cant understand how people think that you do not develop the skills you currently exercise -
@Jkqyl raw brainpower isn't something you can improve with exercise. you can improve test-taking to some extent, with diminishing returns -
@HbdNrx What is raw brainpower? Can we piece it apart and think about the possibilities or is that too autistic? -
@Jkqyl I'd say raw brainpower isn't directly measurable, but those with more are much better at solving problems.Tests provide insight to it -
@HbdNrx In a computer what would solve problems? Not just raw brainpower but developed algorithms. -
@HbdNrx In machine learning, the correctness of algorithms depends on the amount of data the learner has seen. -
@Jkqyl we can't just change peoples' algorithms directly. I gave you some evidence of how effort only changes scores a little. -
@HbdNrx People develop their algorithms. This is what learning is. - 8 more replies
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@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat It isn't now. Most people don't give a shit about IQ, or SAT, etc for that matter.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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