@wellplayd_ggate @HbdNrx @SmailsHat
IQ is a selection of skills that can be improved with effort. Everyone will want to be a high IQ bull.
@Jkqyl @Tipsycaek @wellplayd_ggate @SmailsHat Intelligence doesn't really increase (much?) with training. Some limited test score increases
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@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat are possible, and the Flynn effect is evidence of this, but people generally can't increase IQ -
@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat Not at all true. http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-improve.php And most studies are going to be short term. -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat some tests are more trainable than others, of course. at the extreme, knowing the answers -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat ahead of time can get you a perfect score, but then the test isn't measuring what supposed to -
@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat If you make IQ tests important, they will no longer measure what they are "supposed to". -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat university admissions tests matter but still work pretty well, for the most part -
@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat Not everyone needs to go to the university. This isn't about evolutionary survival. -
@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat And largely it's about effort. A lot of people are not interested in putting in that effort.
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@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat To get really good at things it takes years of hard effort. music/math/physics/anything -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat the idea is that people who do well on IQ test tend to be much better at those things, too -
@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat Of course. But not after people are focusing on IQ tests themselves. -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat this becomes a question of "how effective is this test after people train?" -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat and some tests are still reasonably effective after training -
@HbdNrx@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat What tests? Are you saying some IQ tests? How much training? Years? -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat SAT, LSAT, GRE, MCAT are all good tests. people train for them a lot, but they still work -
@Jkqyl@Tipsycaek@wellplayd_ggate@SmailsHat all highly correlated with IQ, of course - 1 more reply
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