@HbdNrx @Aristokles11235 Agreed. Which is why Gnon isn't a sufficient core for a pro-civilizational philosophy. More is required.
@Costofles @Aristokles11235 what?natural selection did produce civilization,but right now the selection pressures aren't right for long-term
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@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 Human beings consciously refined civilization. Natural selection is unconscious. You said so yourself. -
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@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 Consciousness may result from natural selection. The application of it is not identical with natural selection. -
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@Aristokles11235 civilization arose due to competitive pressures akin to natural selection -
@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 It's hard to identify the competitive pressure that produces a Bach fugue or an illuminated manuscript.
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