@HbdNrx @Aristokles11235 Right, but so is attributing some kind of intelligence or teleology to nature.
@Costofles @Aristokles11235 You need civilization to survive because otherwise you get destroyed by those who do develop civilization.
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@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 Perhaps, but pure natural selection doesn't necessarily generate civilization. -
@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 Conscious civilization is a strategy, not a result. It's not inevitable if you just let nature take its course. -
@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 You seem to be saying that if you just got rid of progism, natural selection produces civilization. It's not so. -
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@Aristokles11235 what?natural selection did produce civilization,but right now the selection pressures aren't right for long-term -
@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 Human beings consciously refined civilization. Natural selection is unconscious. You said so yourself. -
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@Aristokles11235 consciousness is natural as well. -
@HbdNrx@Aristokles11235 Consciousness may result from natural selection. The application of it is not identical with natural selection. -
@Costofles
@Aristokles11235 civilization arose due to competitive pressures akin to natural selection - 1 more reply
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@HbdNrx @Costofles I mean no offense but you guys have a survival fixation. It's actually a form thinking from inferiority.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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