I'll make a few comments on the #NRx/religion thread. Most significantly, nobody is going to be able to bring back traditional religion.
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SJWs get into competitions over who is most universalist, most anti-racist.The church used to channel these moral impulses into less harmful
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My wife adds: competitive morality is a way people try to gain social dominance over each other (like high school)
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Male and female feminists use feminism to gain dominance over beta males. White and black anti-racists use it to gain dom over poor whites
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Endpoint of these morality battles is government spoils. Religious belief does not change the structure that allows this.
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Even conservative religion has been captured by the SJW agenda. Even a return to 1700s religion could only be temporary.
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One reason these morality battles may be increasing: lack of material dominance outlets for most people. Harder for most to gain wealth
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Partly due to increasing gov (people have less agency to do anything these days), partly due to increasing automation (robots do it better).
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With increasing size of government, people will naturally fight more and more over spoils--usually with these morality fights.
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I'm not trying to antagonize all religion here, I just see the secularization trend as inevitable, and I want an alternative to the SJW path
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The metaphysical foundation of Western Civ is Plato. Christianity just a link in the Golden Chain.
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Any serious attempt to grapple with this issue has to *at least* take Plato into consideration in some detail.
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@Costofles It's been decades since I read any Plato, so I can't really comment.
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@HbdNrx Actually I was wrong, Christianity isn't technically part of the golden chain, but it made use of Platonism for metaphysical support -
@HbdNrx I'm planning to read The Republic. Would love to discuss, if you read it too.
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