I get you, but they can be used against us regardless. Both types of names can be tested. Whatever works. We can use a broad name & operate w/ a narrow goal. I think the Proud Boys name hurt them. I’d use PC names. I’d make them print why for ex. The Anti-Racism League is bad.
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PC names can be weaponized against the Left. You can force them to attack PC names over & over again in order to attack the underlying group. I think it will help chip away at PC & identity politics. Who knows though? I’m all for testing to see the best approach.
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Frog and I have discussed this before. You can not seriously accuse someone who wants to import Africa into their country of racism, but you can for everyone who disagrees with that. Hence rightists are always one step away from being racist. Left-wingers can with some
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Replying to @FreeSoil20 @Roxanna_Watrous and
credibility say they are fighting against fascists and racist. What right-wingers can say? That they are fighting universalism out of control? You can accuse these leftists of being racists against Whites, but it's simply not the same thing as being racist against minorities.
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Regarding the insult Fascism, I say Nazi Fascism is Left Wing. Germans had 2 Left Wing parties & Nazi Fascism was simply to the Right of Communism but still on the far Left of the political ideological spectrum from US parties & politics.
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I do not think this is a good categorization. Fascists and Nazis were right-wingers because they were inegalitarian. Leftists prioritize equality. The right is the space for those with other priorities. Of course, different rights have different priorities.
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Libertarians prioritize economic freedom, for example. Social conservatives prioritize social hierarchies. Ethnonationalists prioritize ethnic hierarchy or hegemony. Fascists and Nazis were the last two.
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Democrats are progressively Socialist & are EthnoGlobalists. Dems have an ethno hierarchy by identity group & race caucus that cast whites as the sub-race much as Nazis cast Jews. The broad options are: Regionalist, Nationalist & Globalist. Nationalism is already the compromise
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Abstract ideologies are all in the process of breaking down right now. It's all devolving to group (tribal) interests. "Anti-racism" is a euphemism for anti-white that old school hippy whites can go along with, but universalism isn't the true driving force.
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What’s your take? Mine is we got infiltrated by Socialists/Communists who took over our Universities & indoctrinated ppl. They couldn’t beat our US ideology to grab power so they used Machiavelli’s play: mass foreign immigration (diversity) destroys countries & eases conquest.
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I'd say that some combination of universalism plus shock from WW2 was behind the trends through the 80s, but now that's been mostly replaced with tribal interests (except among some old whites). "I don't see race" was once an ideal, but post-2000s it's become deprecated.
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Business interests also wanted more people and cheap labor to increase profits, of course.
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Overall I think it was a little bit less of an intentional plot to destroy whites as first a genuine and then a cynical leveraging of white sense of fairness.
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