and, of course, showing hte same sources, bc otherwise it's just a crap show to observers IMO
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Replying to @david_kenneth_d
Poor people of race x commit much more crime than equally poor white people. The graphs are actually great evidence for that, but there is plenty of other data analysis out there. Notice that the SPLC doesn't attempt a detailed analysis of the stats.
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Replying to @HbdNrx
I'm saying maximum appeal would be doing what I suggested, otherwise you can show stuff like that bjs report like I showed, and frankly I'm still not sure what that indicates.
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Replying to @david_kenneth_d
Here's some NYC data. I'm having a little trouble finding NYC poverty by race, but here's the data for children. Notice the disparity isn't nearly as large as the crime disparity. Also, keep in mind that poverty inherently causing violent crime doesn't actually make sense.pic.twitter.com/oRVXzaBnRJ
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Replying to @HbdNrx @david_kenneth_d
Poverty might cause someone to steal, but it doesn't really cause assault. In contrast, does crime cause poverty? Absolutely! Criminals are not good people to hire, for one thing.
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Replying to @HbdNrx @david_kenneth_d
One could say that socioeconomic marginalization makes gangs appealing to young people, but this also applies to Hispanics, and they do not have such a high homicide rate. Either way, it's a mix of dysfunctions where one feeds another. Stupid and impulsive people have a difficult
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time being successful in the legitimate economy. So crime is an alternative for them. Both poverty and crime are the causes. It is similar to how stupid and impulsive people have a difficult time organizing a good government to take care of their needs, so the government and the
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population are trapped in an endless cycle of incompetence and lack of accountability.
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Replying to @FreeSoil20 @david_kenneth_d
We can easily see how crime could cause poverty. Think about how difficult economic activity can be if property rights are not secure. Too much stealing and the stores go out of business. You have to trust people to honor contracts and not stab you.
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The possibility of the inverse causation of poverty causing crime is only reasonably clear for nonviolent crime, but even there a closer analysis of the motivations of criminals reveals that few are just stealing bread to survive.
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Anyway I know you're agreeing, and yes just looking at the poor Hispanic and Asian data demonstrates this.
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(My point is just that the whole concept of poverty causing crime is at least half disingenuous to begin with)
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