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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25

    I am increasingly finding the word 'gotten' sneaking into my vocabulary. It actually is clearer & flows better than using 'got' for both present & past but I will resist this colonialism of my language. I blame @GodDoesnt for this but he just says 'Reverse colonialism isn't real'

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      2. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        I prefer it.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
        Replying to @christianjbdev @GodDoesnt

        Traitor!

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      2. Rob McMillin‏ @scareduck May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        We retain a lot of older Anglicisms on this side of the pond, including especially pronunciation.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
        Replying to @scareduck @GodDoesnt

        Yep. I found the most useful way to track this was to get a copy of a Shakespeare play glossed for Americans and glossed for Brits. It's amazing how much difference there is in what needs to be glossed and what does not. Shows the split in the languages very clearly.

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      2. Morris Dancer‏ @MorrisF1 May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        I use 'gotten'. Don't worry, you're not falling prey to the insidious influence of the colonies. You're becoming illuminated by the glorious enlightenment of Yorkshire.

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      3. Shlomo Engelson Argamon‏ @ShlomoArgamon May 25
        Replying to @MorrisF1 @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        I am an American, born and raised, and yet use ‘gotten’. Was there a Yorkshire ghost in the Oregon house where I grew up?

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
        Replying to @ShlomoArgamon @MorrisF1 @GodDoesnt

        No, Gotten was Middle and Early Modern English. It travelled to America and remained. It disappeared from British English except from in Yorkshire which retains much more of earlier English than the rest of the country.

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      5. Shlomo Engelson Argamon‏ @ShlomoArgamon May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @MorrisF1 @GodDoesnt

        Ah. One more thing we rightly retained over here...

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      6. Morris Dancer‏ @MorrisF1 May 25
        Replying to @ShlomoArgamon @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        *trans-Atlantic linguistic legacy high five*

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      7. Shlomo Engelson Argamon‏ @ShlomoArgamon May 25
        Replying to @MorrisF1 @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        *slap*

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      2. Andy Brice‏ @andybrice May 26
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        I say embrace it. I deliberately use the Americanism “season” now when talking about TV. Because “There were five series in that series.” just gets too confusing. Also we should probably adopt “y’all”. And the US should take “Autumn” in exchange.

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      4. julia JZH‏ @jjzhub May 26
        Replying to @DurinnMcFurren @andybrice and

        Agree on the “y’all” but will offer “reckon” in concession to both the Brits & the South.

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      2. Prakash Shah प्रकाश‏ @aryalegal May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Don’t you mean colonisation?

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      3. Ernestine 🇿🇦‏ @vanastaden May 25
        Replying to @aryalegal @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        🤣clever clogs 😎

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      1. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Maybe after analogy with "forgotten"? And why not? Say whatever you like any way you want.

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      1. Jennifer Ratcliffe‏ @compass_keen May 26
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Me and my boyfriend have just been debating this. I'm from North West and he's from the Midlands. Gotton is the past continuous, got is the past, get is the present, getting is the present continuous. i.e. 'A land once forgotten' implies it has been and continues to be forgot

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