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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying May 22

      One year later, @JillianKayM talks to an Evergreen student who was assaulted by protesters, an alum who advised his sister against attending, and a couple of former faculty who think that maybe, just maybe, the “social justice” agenda will not end well. https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/how-evergreen-lost-the-left/13BE526F-D0D0-41D8-A9F5-76179B8BA8CC.html …

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    2. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying May 22

      Here's the print story for those who prefer to read (original tweet is a 31m podcast):https://www.wsj.com/articles/rough-social-justice-at-evergreen-state-1527029193 …

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    3. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 22
      Replying to @HeatherEHeying

      But, you can't have it both ways. Either "social justice warriors" are so ingrained into the "leftist" academy that the whole of the institution is irredeemable or, in actual fact, they make a small group of disruptors that don't represent the culture of universities at all.

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    4. Ryan Dee‏ @Ryan__Dee May 23
      Replying to @DeTabachnick @HeatherEHeying

      Fallacy of the excluded middle.

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    5. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 23
      Replying to @Ryan__Dee @HeatherEHeying

      I would blame those who identify a "free speech crisis" at the academy of creating a false dilemma. In practice, there can be both people who disrupt free speech while free speech continues on at the university as a whole.

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    6. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia May 24
      Replying to @DeTabachnick @Ryan__Dee @HeatherEHeying

      You can only tackle threats to free speech while you still have free speech. At what point does it constitute a crisis? Opinions differ. She doesn't want to be tagged right now because working but you should look up Helen Pluckrose's work on this. (She did surveys & got numbers).

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    7. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 24
      Replying to @IonaItalia @Ryan__Dee @HeatherEHeying

      Sure thing. In general, I would say that professors have a particular responsibility to expose their students to good (if not also controversial) ideas. Free speech just for the sake of it really doesn't match with the mission of the university.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
      Replying to @DeTabachnick @IonaItalia and

      No, that's right. It has to be something of relevance and presented by someone knowledgeable. We don't want people to stand on a stage & say 'wibble.' But conservative academics & radical feminist scholars getting banned is a problem.

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        2. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia and

          Honestly, while I know there are a few examples of such "banning", it is not the fundamental problem as some present it to be.

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        3. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia May 25
          Replying to @DeTabachnick @HPluckrose and

          You sound EXACTLY like the Hindu far right. "There have been a few cases of Muslims getting beaten or killed, not enough to worry about." This is silly. The number of cases should be nil.

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        4. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 25
          Replying to @IonaItalia @HPluckrose and

          That is a bit over the top.

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        5. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia May 25
          Replying to @DeTabachnick @HPluckrose and

          It's not though. In both cases, the number should be zero.

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        6. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 25
          Replying to @IonaItalia @HPluckrose and

          It is not a good comparison.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
          Replying to @DeTabachnick @IonaItalia and

          It;s not a comparison of the individuals. Its a look at the argument 'Let's not worry about bad things happening if it doesn't happen everywhere, all the time.' I suspect you'd see the problem if conservatives were regularly but not always banning talk of social issues & speakers

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        8. David Tabachnick‏ @DeTabachnick May 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia and

          Yeah. I got it. Still, not a good comparison.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
          Replying to @DeTabachnick @IonaItalia and

          That's not really saying anything. We can't go through all the bad things which are still bad if they happen often but not always until you find one you can live with.

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