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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24

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      Biological essentialism, in the context of gender differences, refers to a belief that men and women are cognitively & psychologically distinct. There is a female nature & a male nature. Whereas, in reality, we are strongly overlapping populations with much individual variation. https://twitter.com/ashishkjames99/status/999737040324345857 …

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    2. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think ‘essentialism’ is a bad concept myself, in that it smuggles in an assumption that there is nothing beyond immediate appearance; that is the ‘ism’ is a pejorative attached to the essence/appearance distinction. (Making no claims about gender here.)

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield

      I'm not sure I follow.

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    4. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      My fault, I’m sure. IMHO: Mostly the arguments against biological essentialism as explanation for gender difference are good. But...

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    5. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @HPluckrose

      ... the concept of essentialism is bad. All reason is about moving from appearance to essence (with caveats). I.e. not taking first impressions uncritically. Deconstructionists (and others) argue this is a false move, which they call ‘essentialism’.

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    6. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield @HPluckrose

      To call it essentialism*ism* is not a neutral description but a pejorative. It is saying that scientific reasoning is delusional, that it is not possible to move beyond immediate appearance. The term ‘essentialism’ smuggles in a Pomo case against scientific method.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
      Replying to @JamesHeartfield

      It can and often is used to make that argument but must it be? What would you call the argument that biology produces a male nature - assertive, analytical, reasoning - and a female nature - agreeable, intuitive, emotional.

      2:32 PM - 24 May 2018
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        2. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Individuals of the human species are the natural substrate of society, but a social order is of another dimension to animal behaviour. You can no more reduce society to biology than you could reduce biology to chemistry - not without setting aside just what you are explaining.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
          Replying to @JamesHeartfield

          Yes, I know that but what do we call people who say we can if not 'biological essentialists?' Biological determinists? Is there a word for people who believe biology produces a distinctly male and a distinctly female nature?

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        4. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Biological determinists. Sociological illiterates. Victims of a category error. The reasoning is mostly circular btw. Nobody ever predicted social behaviour by reasoning from nature. They only retrospectively attribute trends to biology.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
          Replying to @JamesHeartfield

          You have to notice behavioural differences first, yes, before you can look for causes in hormone levels or brains.

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        2. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I’m not an expert, but it sure sounds like some abbreviated reasoning. Having hung around in social sciences I am irked that natural scientists are so confident in asserting things about social behaviour without studying society.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
          Replying to @JamesHeartfield

          It;s not scientists I've ever heard say it. They tend to understand the whole variation thing because they actually know how evolution works. It's far-right loons who don't who keep telling me this.

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        2. JamesHeartfield‏ @JamesHeartfield May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I’d call it stupid. Or biological essentialism even. Just so long as you know that there is s Post-modern turn implicit in the concept.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
          Replying to @JamesHeartfield

          I do from having been called a biological essentialist by them many times for saying things like 'sexual selection exists.'

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