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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24

      Sometimes I think the main problem we face is simply that being reasonable & evidence based, moderate, charitable and broadly liberal is boring. Much more invigorating to throw yourself into a cause & have goodies & baddies.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24

      No-one wants to watch a film abt 2 sets of largely reasonable ppl who disagree on an issue which is then resolved by persuasion, negotiation & compromise. Our nature seeks villains & heroes & is only satisfied by the utter destruction of the former resulting in happily ever after

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24

      This is one reason I am not convinced that seeing things in terms of grand myths & archetypes is the way to go. Yes, it appeals to our nature & yes, it can even inspire us to be the best version of ourselves but can it facilitate addressing the social world as it is?

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        2. Alexander Gallagher‏ @quietlines May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I generally agree but then would contend that the majority among us utilize religion(s) as supreme purveyor of a given worldview. Thus myths, symbolism and their falsities seem to show high importance among our populations.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
          Replying to @quietlines

          Well, I wouldn't be arguing that we shouldn't do this if I didn't think we were doing it to a significant extent. Genuine belief in religious narratives isn't common in the UK but we still manage to find our myths and symbols.

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        4. Harold Weaver Smith‏ @hws5mp May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose @quietlines

          And therefore, perhaps that demonstrates precisely why they're important, i.e. even people who consciously reject religion/myth still subconsciously find substitutes for them that satisfy their storytelling, archetype-driven brains.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 24
          Replying to @hws5mp @quietlines

          Yes.

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        2. Citizen K‏ @britcit May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Surely the point Jung and Peterson make about archetypes is not that we *should* see things in terms of archetypes, but that we do whether we recognise it or not. The question then becomes how to balance that aspect of our nature with reason + critical thinking to make progress.

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        2. Vicky Powell‏ @VickyPowell8 May 24
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          My comment on pm when I came across it as a 50 yr old mature student was: 1. Wow, this makes me read/see the world differently 2. It would be hard/impossible to live as a whole life philosophy and 3. Now I understand where x,y,z ideas come from

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        1. Cathode X-Ray‏ @cathode_ray8 May 25
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          This is the rub. The classical conservative does not believe in utopia, but an endless cycle of tension and release (a cosmic order of conflict if you will). The progressive mindset (addressing social world) is much more utilitarian and conceptually creeps towards collectivism.pic.twitter.com/98kMcjuAQz

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        1. Milton Llera‏ @miltonllera May 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Maybe id we think that different archetypes can reside at the same time in any one person they can.

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        1. Barbara murphy‏ @bmurphypots May 24
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          well striving to be our best selves might make us more capable of solving larger problems

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        1. kijhgv‏ @SonOfManPlay May 24
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          I agree mostly. Myths are for films/art, politics are for people. But I also wonder if mythart equally drives a lot good in politics. A modern example being Star Trek.

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