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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Owen Edwards

      I hear it more from men. But again, it depends who you are talking to. If you listen mostly to feminists, you'll hear a lot more about the pressure to prioritise children and fit your working life round that if at all.https://twitter.com/OwenEdwards/status/998975920345178113 …

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      Owen Edwards @OwenEdwards
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      I do hear a LOT of women I know feeling a real pressure to achieve tangible public success, with family meant to fit round that.
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    2. Owen Edwards‏ @OwenEdwards May 22
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      The men I know who feel like that don't tend to think it automatically limits options for kids (though perceptions about finance might). I think the obvious biological aspects might naturally create more of an opportunity cost for young women. Ofc it varies a lot!

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22
      Replying to @OwenEdwards

      No, but in reality, it is much the same. Biologically, women only need a few months off to produce a baby. After that, the choices about making your childcare responsibilities fit around your job or your job fit around your childcare responsibilities belong to both sexes.

      10:24 AM - 22 May 2018
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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22
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          Ideally, they'd balance it between them so kids get to see plenty of both their parents and both parents get to bond fully with kids but in reality, one will probably do more & that one will be the one who is less careerminded. In most cases, that will be the man. For us, no.

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        2. Owen Edwards‏ @OwenEdwards May 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So if there is a perceived higher opportunity cost, why is that? (Ofc you may simply say you don't believe there to be a widespread perceived higher oppcost)

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22
          Replying to @OwenEdwards

          The gap is only found in women who have kids and it is not found in men who do. This will be partly biological and partly socialised. What it shouldn't be in moralised. Ethically, the responsibilities are the same.

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        4. Owen Edwards‏ @OwenEdwards May 22
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Thanks, as ever, for your take :)

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