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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

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    Indoctrination is what I am talking about being sceptical of. There are no feminists beating childbearing plans out of women just as there are no tradlifers beating career plans out of them. These ideas exist in a society which overwhelmingly supports women's right to choose. https://twitter.com/KathrynmHogan/status/998973064137261056 …

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      2. Mike‏ @citation_needed May 22
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Beating? No, that tends to be a male thing. But I’ve seen both groups use shame and do their best to use ostracism on each other.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22
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        Yeah, but they can't ostracise you unless you're part of them.

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      4. Mike‏ @citation_needed May 22
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I know. Doesn’t stop them trying. It’s very High School/Mean Girls.

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      1. Kareem Sabri‏ @kareem_sabri May 22
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        It seems bizarre to consider social influence to be "indoctrination" - we don't make our decisions in a vacuum and we're all influenced by peer behavior etc. But the seriousness of the impediments to going against the grain would have to be pretty coercive to undermine freedom.

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      1. Liz Waters‏ @cdnwaters May 22
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        There's also a narrative that sells the idea that women can have it all. Those are the ones I feel worst for, because in many cases it's either impossible or requires a massive amount of personal sacrifice. Women with children and career have time for little else, like breathing.

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      1. Owen Edwards‏ @OwenEdwards May 22
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        I do hear a LOT of women I know feeling a real pressure to achieve tangible public success, with family meant to fit round that.

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