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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

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      I think it is ineffective. I think women will largely do whatever they want to do, provided they're allowed & there is support. In our society, both those narratives & the 'personal choice' 1 exists. I'm skeptical lowered birthrates are due to cultural conditioning by feminists https://twitter.com/Mr_Bloppo/status/998962401071509504 …

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      I observed this at the school. The stay-at-home mums tended to form social networks with each other for company, as did the professionals & the full-time mums who would co-operate with childcare and mutual support. My friends were the part-timers who relied on each other for both

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      The problem with looking at stats with a cultural constructivist mindset is that you'll see the ones that fit your view Women are having fewer babies than before = feminist brainwashing Women still much more likely to be stay-at-home mums = patriarchal brainwashing

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      I think women have much more agency, especially when we have support for whatever we decide. I doubt many women say 'I really wanted to stay home with lots of children but then I heard what feminists were saying' or 'I really wanted a career but ppl said women shld stay at home.'

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      They'd just choose a partner & friends from those who share or accept their values & not from those who don't. The obvious exception is family or small religious/cultural community norms where going against them entails losing your whole supportive network.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      I'd be much more sympathetic to a woman complaining that unless she eg, stays home & has babies, her family & community will not accept her than a woman like me, whose family will support them whatever & who can pick her own community from mainstream society more easily.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

      In reality, the feminists we know best for complaining they are culturally conditioned & pressured to stay home & have babies do not come from small religious/cultural communities within larger societies who will reject them if they don't. They're middle-class, white, secular.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

          And the women we know best for complaining they are being pressured not to stay home with kids and instead have a career by feminists are not part of feminist communities. If they ever belonged to one, they left and are now addressing and often speaking from a conservative base.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 22

          Therefore, this complaint often comes down to 'Within mainstream society, there are different views on whether women should prioritise family life or careers. I don't like this one coz it says I'm doing it wrong.' Deal with it. Your own view is also mainstream. Others can exist

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        1. W. Brian Gourlie‏ @dubya_brian May 22
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          There’s evidence to suggest that developed societies have lower birth rates at least in part due to female empowerment, which of course is a good thing. Echoing your sentiments, it’s the empowerment that’s a good thing, not the individual decision to or not to have children.

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        1. Muddy Mae Suggins‏ @meadowgroove May 22
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          Bingo.

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