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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Mina Cikara‏ @profcikara May 20
      Replying to @jayvanbavel @NeilLewisJr @PsychRabble

      That’s interesting. Bc the bloodiest genocide in Europe following WWII happened in frmr Yugoslavia: where people coexisted under one republic for 50 years, married across religions, and raised their kids together. So keep it but remember its limitations. Contact hardly = harmony

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    2. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble May 21
      Replying to @profcikara @jayvanbavel @NeilLewisJr

      Right, but that is not what @HPluckrose wrote, or which I affirmed. Neither of us wrote "contact is a recipe for eternal harmony." Her pt was that working together toward shared goals reduces prej. Nor did she write "and once that happens nothing can ever change it."

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    3. Mina Cikara‏ @profcikara May 21
      Replying to @PsychRabble @jayvanbavel and

      I didn’t say you did. I just wanted to flag the limitation for people who read these tweets and potentially take away “ah, contact is all we need.” Wouldn’t it be lovely if that were true.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 21
      Replying to @profcikara @PsychRabble and

      Very considerate. Contact also can't make people fly. However, this is generally irrelevant because the claim was not 'There's less racism in places which have different races living together.' Obviously, that is untrue. There is way less racism where there is only one race.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 21
      Replying to @HPluckrose @profcikara and

      The claim was that the better way to reduce prejudice is to have *mixed groups with shared aims* with the alternative being segregation by race and groups based on race. We can assume I am speaking of cultures with more than one race.

      6:39 AM - 21 May 2018
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        2. Mina Cikara‏ @profcikara May 21
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PsychRabble and

          My mistake for emphasizing the mixed groups and deemphasizing the shared aims component! That said, shared aims are not so easy to come by, esp in presence of perceptions of threat. But the ease of implementing wasn’t your point. Just a personal concern/interest of mine.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 21
          Replying to @profcikara @PsychRabble and

          Sorry for my terseness. The sources are one evo psych study which showed that people forget race very quickly when involved in shared goals, Jon Haidt finding the same thing & a metastudy of 55 studies looking at strongly positive results of contact more generally.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 21
          Replying to @HPluckrose @profcikara and

          The context is the debate between two anti-racist approaches. One rooted in removing social significance from racial categories & de-emphasising race and one rooted in raising awareness of racial categories & strongly emphasising race.

          1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
        5. Mina Cikara‏ @profcikara May 21
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PsychRabble and

          Got it. And, yes! I’m familiar with and a fan of that work. Sometimes it gets watered down/misrepresented, though (not by you!), and it ruffles my feathers. Apologies for not reading back far enough for the specific context, within which I totally agree with you.

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