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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 20

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Pamela Paresky

    Yeah. I could certainly see occasions where someone could snap in the face of abuse. Intense provocation is a real extenuating circumstance but this would vary so much by situation.https://twitter.com/PamelaParesky/status/998279248510152704 …

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    Pamela Paresky @PamelaParesky
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    Also, the concept of fighting words seems to be based on the faulty premise that human beings have no ability to control their aggressive impulses in the face of sufficiently upsetting words.
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      2. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky May 20
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But that would probably fall more under “self defense,” I would think.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 20
        Replying to @PamelaParesky

        Threatening behaviour or harassment, yes, but sometimes something that isn't a direct threat can cause someone to snap. eg, a Sandy Hook parent might if told they were lying. I'd be sympathetic to that.

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      4. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky May 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You might be sympathetic to the impulse, but there’s a reason we teach children impulse control. If the person to whom you were mean punched you, your words wouldn’t have caused them to punch you. Their lack of self control would have something to do with it.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 25
        Replying to @PamelaParesky

        I agree fully with the principle. I just also know we are human. It wouldn't become right for me to punch someone who accused me of faking grief for the death of my child while that grief was still fresh. It would just be understandable.

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      1. SadCowHat mst‏ @shadowcat_mst May 20
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        I am reminded of a time somebody compared me criticising their code to them yelling "FUCK YOUR MOTHER" at me, three months after I'd buried her. I would've been in the wrong had I punched him but even knowing that, I was still only just able to resist doing so.

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      1. Saint‏ @SaintTzu May 20
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think this isn’t quite right. ‘Fighting words’ has a different weight where some vestiges of honor culture remain.

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